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Posted by Prof. Goose on September 13, 2006 - 9:34pm
Thanks to both of them for helping keep the lights on at TOD. TOD (read as mostly SuperG ...many thanks to him and the folks at ScoopHost too) has recently moved to its own dedicated server, which for those of you who know anything about that stuff know it's a pretty costly endeavor; we could not do that without the adverts. There are other improvements on the way as well, but we'll unveil those as they become ready.
And we would have no reason to keep all of this going if we didn't have one of the best communities in the blogosphere to make it worthwhile. Your dedication to keeping this dialogue on energy full of intelligent and informed reason, patently empirical, and devoid of polemics is what makes TOD worth coming back to. Let's keep it that way.
Plus the newer polemics get TERRIBLE gas mileage! Thirteen Firefoxes to the Adblock, and that's not even counting all the Zions you end up wasting every time you start it up!!
Oh dear, I think this hummus has gone bad. Good night!
Of course flashing adverts are a bit distracting if you are used to a whole add-free internet with adblock, but it is worth it for TOD.
Just avoid the name Zion.
What's the name of that City in the Matrix movie? You know, the one that is the last bastion of freedom and reality in a sea of hatred and mind control? Gee. It's just on the tip of my tongue. But I can't recall totally at the moment.
TOD is kind of like that too. The last bastion of reason and civility. Thank you for keeping it that way.
Many small towns etc were named Zion because the US was settled by people who oftan had the Bible as their only book, or close to it. Zionism as a political movement came later (the roots of it were coincident with much of the settling of the US but Zionism really flourished starting 100 years ago). So, people had their hearts in the right places when they named their town etc Zion, but trust on this this, the Empire has just begun to start to unravel, as things go all to squit, Zion is not going to be a good name to call things. If the 1970s recession was any guide, stuff that's down-home and farm-y and handicrafts with chickens on 'em.... think folksy, folkish......
I was a bit mixed up, I did think you guys were considered a server co. named Zion something, but since it's an existing name of a national park, a name that can be changed back, there's nothing to avoid really.
One Wolf
I'm not sure quite how to respond to them without sounding fairly lame.
Anyone got any ideas?
Re-your question - start thinking about about peak consumption instead of peak production. Consumption will peak in different countries at different times and right now I believe consumption may have peaked in many poor countries - lowering global demand and price.
So you got to work out what that means for you - poor folks in Indonesia and Pakistan who can't afford to fill their car or grow their crops - could that possibly affect folks in Colorado?
If prices of gasoline are falling in the USA then this would be a great time to slap on some tax - that would get the prices rising again.
CW
"Hey guys, gas prices are finally going down! Let's put a dollar tax on them!"
So are they in Europe (and presumably nobody likes tax raises anywhere).
But - even if it may sound crazy - high gas taxes here in Europe have made raising crudes prices far less striking since the portion of taxes is more than 60 per cent (and fixed, not proportional.)
The tax revenue is used for everything from road maintenance and pension funding to salaries of our politicians :-/, all those expenditures that have to be paid for in the USA too, but the money comes from elsewhere ..
Highest gasoline prices in Europe are in oil exporting England (top price for diesel) and oil exporting Norway (top in gas).
Lowest gas prices worldwide (next to nothing for a litre) are in cuddlesome Iran, cozy Turqmenistan and comfy Iraq ..
But is the United Kingdom (if there is such thing in your eyes ;-) overall a net importer or exporter?
Norway is over the peak now and thus has decided not to produce by hook or by crook, but set up a state national fund, which currently holds 158 billion Euros (as of end 2006; that's 34.000 for every single Norwegian). All the money is invested in foreign markets in order to keep the norwegian currency on the ground.
Norway is still very busy in new exploration (the big nat gas fields in the Barent sea) and the state-owned Statoil company recently was involved in the successful deepwater exploration drilling in the gulf of Mexico.
You are in Aberdeen? Shoot me an e-mail. There is a chance that Aberdeen is in my near future. I have been there a few years ago, but it would be nice to ask a few questions. See my profile for my e-mail.
euan
What to say?
There are oil wells in Pennsylvania that are bone dry.
You can shake a fistfull of dollars at them and it won't make the oil come back.
Long ago, back in 1859, when Edwin Drake was drilling there, it seemed like the oil would flow forever. Nothing goes on forever. This gas lull; it too shall pass.
What to say to Dons derisive friends over falling oil price?
-Still gone up every year in the last five.
-The cost in dead GI's and Iraq's is still going up.
-So you're happy paying [US$65/barrel-whatever current local price is]?
(no warranty against punch in the mouth)
Ah. Got it. ;-)
Thanks for the server update, the pointer to the advertisers, and most importantly YOU and all of the TOD "principals"-- editors and contributors alike--who make this site what it is.
I would mention that the high caliber of most discussions and the sheer volume of input make this a sizeable if not exclusive chunk of my self-alloted internet time.
Time, btw, well spent.
Salud