DrumBeat: August 3, 2006
Posted by threadbot on August 3, 2006 - 9:32am
Lost in the swirl of controversy surrounding this new analysis by some people of world energy dynamics is that few publications have noted that the accompanying scare was originally the result of writings by Matthew Simmons. The latter has been and remains a controversial source. Simmons’ analytical credentials, if not also his prognostic ones as well, are considered by many to be dubious given that he has long been an American investment banker based in Houston, Texas.Even now, relatively few people outside the publications and conferences where Simmons has argued this case would have known the frequency with which his contentions have been soundly rebutted by geologists, petroleum engineers, and oil reservoir technical specialists. These quite differently situated individuals and specialists, almost all of whom have had decades of firsthand experience working with the oil fields in question and whose work has required that they carefully monitor and report on such matters every day, all year round, continue to contest and argue the exact opposite of the “peak” oil theorists.
Saudi Arabia rules out oil weapon
RIYADH (Reuters) - Saudi Arabia, the world's biggest crude exporter, believes oil should not be used as a weapon because it is the economic lifeline of Arab states, its foreign minister said.Asked whether the oil weapon should be used if the conflict between Israel and Hizbollah escalates, Prince Saud al-Faisal said: "The two issues should not be mixed because oil is among the economic capabilities that countries... need to meet their obligations toward their citizens.
"If we ignore this reality and start asking that the foundations of our life (be used) and enter into reckless adventures, the first to be hurt will be our citizens and no wise government can accept this," he told a news conference.
Tropical Storm Chris weakened unexpectedly overnight, and is no longer expected to become a hurricane.
Let me put it this way: The power companies and energy companies understand that we’re heading toward peak oil. That’s No. 1.
Biofuels May Not Be Sustainability Panacea
Japan's Itochu to build world's largest geothermal plant in Indonesia
Mexico's economy and government are living on borrowed time, and the day of reckoning may be coming sooner rather than later.A third of the country's federal revenues come from the profits from government-run oil fields. A single field known as Cantarell provides most of the oil and the profits. While the exact condition of this field is a closely kept secret, news leaks and the limited published data suggest that Cantarell is quickly passing its pumping prime. Production in May was down 7 percent from just the beginning of the year, according to the Los Angeles Times. The demise of an oil field can be rather sudden. As one former Mexican oil executive told the Times, "Cantarell is going to fall a lot, and quickly."
Senate Approves Bill to Expand Oil, Gas Drilling; Gulf States Would Get Share of Royalties.
Lithuanian Prime Minister Gediminas Kirkilas: Political issues might motivate Russian oil blockage
Bangladesh: Power office ransacked in Jhalakati for power outage
Angry demonstrators deprived of regular electricity supply ransacked the power office in the town during their three-hour demonstration programme Wednesday, leaving an engineer and five police injured.
Road Projects a Casualty of Oil Crisis
Asphalt prices escalate as oil prices climb, making highway projects more expensive.
Does anybody have any idea when total Chinese oil production might be due to peak? Has anyone carried out a Hubbert linearisation of Chinese oil production?
When presented like that you can see a definite shortfall.
More than half way through the year and we have a net decrease of Half (.5) a million barrels per day.
I recall that either the EIA or IEA revised new demand to around 1 Million new barrels per day. So, either a supergiant is coming online in September, or its going to be a very expensive and cold winter.
A question for the more wise, if you reduce gasoline demand can you produce more heating oil from a barrel of oil? ie. I don't know if you can change the mix of extractables from a barrel of crude.
BTW, when do we decide peak has occurred? It's starting to look like Deffeyes was right, maybe.
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Yes Exactly! The IEA data is always premature and usually too high. But there is a huge discrepancy between the EIA's Short Term Energy Report and the IEA data. The EIA's Short Term Energy Report had OPEC production, December to May down by 855,000 bp/d. But the IEA, for the same period, had OPEC production up by 300,000 bp/d. That is a discrepancy of 1,155,000 bp/d. It is hard to reconcile that kind of difference.
December to June the discrepancy closes from down by 555,000 bp/d (EIA) to up by 500 bp/d, (IEA) a difference of only 1,055,000 bp/d. Still a difference too large to be reconciled.
But you must wait until the EIA publishes its International Petroleum Monthly to get data that is checked and cross checked and far more accurate than the IEA's premature data. The latest issue has the May data. That data has OPEC production down by 607,000 bp/d, December to May and World production down by 981,000 December to May, crude + condensate.
There is absolutely no chance that the world will produce more crude oil in June 06 than in December of 05. I am expecting a slight increase in June however but a subsequent drop in July.
http://www.eia.doe.gov/ipm/contents.html
OPEC has been taking hits for publishing bogus data on oil production; the US colonial masters dont' seem any different.
How can this character post good research like this one moment, and act like a drunk 13-year old the next moment?
Hey Oil CEO!!!! Matt's site RULEZ!!! Matt is da Man!! You have to go read Tainter and dieoff.org!!!! No one site is Number One they're all different views of Peak Oil!!
Cussing and lunacy should soon follow.....
Bait. I don't think so. It's you little fishies that are always falling for the bait. Two down. Where's smekhovo?
Correct me if I'm wrong. I wouldn't want to misrepresent your views. That was you, right? Not some other fleam?
Funny thing was, I was going to write a cute little, humorous piece in the attempt to put this behind us. I read your initial response to my "Oil" post just previous to having to go out. Didn't have a chance to respond. Unfortunately, oldhippie preempted this attempt.
Take the fig-leaf, dude. (Yeah, I'm trying to teach a lesson in diplomacy - unless you'd rather get steamrolled, of course).
And watch Dad's Seagram's 7, you'll have one heck of a headache later.
You ZioNazi.
Take the fig-leaf and stop reading the Chomsky.
If my guess is correct, reducing gasoline demand and increasing diesel demand will move the prices of light and heavy crude closer. But sour will be cheaper per barrel than sweet becuse sour is a pain to refine to get the sulfur out.
In theory, with enough processing you can make any crude come out with whatever final product you want. However, the energy requirements to stray that far away from the natural distillation curve starts becoming quite large.
May of 2005 comes in close at 85,008. Keep in mind that the EIA revises its figures every month by as much as 500,000 bpd, and will frequently re-revise them later.
The margin of error is huge. The more I work with these numbers, the more I come to believe they are useless and that we are wasting our time depending on them for anything.
I like moving averages. If you use a six-month trailing moving average and then compare these figures to the corresponding month twelve months ago, you won't find any declines in the last two years. Although we are starting to cut it close. May comes in at 100.29%(.29% above May 2005's 6-month SMA) using this method - the lowest in the last 2 years at least. To put that in perspective, using that method, we were seeing up to 5% gains per month in 2004.
I consider this a gross exaggeration. The IEA often revises its figures by almost 500,000 bpd but never the EIA. I do not believe anyond follows the EIA dater closer than I and I have never seen a revision anywhere even close to half a million barrels per day.
The EIA revises its totals because it gets revisions from each individual country. These revisions are usually in the range to 10 to 20 thousand barrels per day or less. Sometimes these revisions will go back several months. But they never amount to more than peanuts as far as the totals go.
Which is another point. All liquids is crap! It includes propane, butane, ethanol, biodiesel, refinery process gain, and a host of other things that have nothing to do with crude oil. The revision for February 06, crude + condensate was miniscule, as it always is with the EIA data. Same report:
Crude + condensate
Feb. 06 73,807,000 bp/d
Revized latest figures
Feb. 06 73,825,000 bp/d
A revision on 18,000 bp/d.
And this is an extremely large revision for crude + condensate. I have never seen a revision much larger than this for crude + condensate. I put that in bold because I wished to.
Revisions in crude + condensate are always peanuts.
No I do not work for the EIA but I gather and keep data every month. I back up my data every two or three months. The data above is from my last backup as compared to the latest data.
Okay, I apologize for not realizing how crappy the data for "All Liquids" really was. My bad, but it gives me another reason for using only crude oil in my data, never biodiesel, ethanol, propane or butane. The EIA gathers these figures for crude + condensate only by totalling up the data from each nation. Therefore there can be no revision greater than the total revisions for the individual nations. And there is usually only one or two nations revised with each report. Therefore the total revisions is always only peanuts as far as the total goes.
4.506 million barrels per day since Jan 1995. Does that seem right? I'll send you a copy of the spreadsheet if you've got an email drop.
The idea is to try to guage "significant" deviations within the data. I'm just trying to be a math nut here. A report of around +/- 3.166 mbpd would be a "1 standard deviation" event. A report of around +/- 6.332 would be a 2 standard deviation event, which should occur no more than 1 time out of 40 (2.5% of the time).
If the data is "normal" you'd have to pretty much ignore any event less than 1 standard deviation -- from a noise standpoint. And you'd have to ignore *sequential* events as well, unless you change timeframes and re-normalize your data.
Or does it and I am just too dumb to see it?
What you are gaining in the calculation is a sense of perspective on the noise. Rather than get caught up in a prediction based on a short series of sequential, but possibly normally distributed numbers, you look for a significant change based on the statistics of the series.
Since (or if) the data is really getting less volitile then it could be easier to see a true downturn.
So, beginning in 1970 the total world crude production was just over 45 mb/d and this year it is averaging over 73 mb/d. So the average difference between now and 1970 would be much greater than between now and 2001.
And I just proved this on my Excel spreadsheet. I placed the numbers from 1 thru 50 in a colum and did a "stdev" on the entire column. My answer was 14.577. Then I did the same "stdev" on just the last five data points. My answer was 1.58. And since every point increased by juse 1, according to your definition, I should have gotten the same answer for both.
No. One standard deviation is the average difference between any two data points of the complete set of data points.
Sorry about leaving "the changes are squared" detail out until my last post. This was not particularly clear by me. I'm so familiar with this junk that I assume that what I'm saying is immediately clear.
Can you try again with the changes in the data?
I was speaking with another PO person, who feels we may get a "cushion" of another 1mbpd of net new production, which sounds plausible to me. But this is only about 1.2% of daily production, and a fraction of one standard deviation. We have too much noise, and not enough signal.
And yet I see this graph at trendlines.ca:
Either I'm misinterpreting what I see here, or "always" means different things to different people.
First time post. I'm meeting today with Senator Russ Feingold's staff, not as a lobbyist or as a member of a special interest group, but as a constituent from Wisconsin.
I sent a letter to him a month ago detailing my concerns in relation to peak oil. I stated that Ethanol production was non-viable (EROEI) and damaging to cropland. I spoke of bolstering rail services, both for industry and transit. Finally, I asked him to acknowledge the challenges ahead and to create policies that inform and assist his constituents during the coming decline.
I received a letter back from his office that was a stock response regarding "Alternative Fuels". In it, he states his efforts for bolstering the Ethanol industry. HaHaHaHaHa! I feel more strongly than ever that we won't be getting any help from our federal government when TSHTF.
I need some help from you. If you were given the chance to meet with Feingold's staff today at 4pm, what would you discuss during the meeting?
Thanks,
Tom Anderson-Brown
As he is a senator from a corn-producing state, I can understand his interest in promoting the ethanol industry.
You might point him to the Cornell-Berkeley study:
http://www.news.cornell.edu/stories/July05/ethanol.toocostly.ssl.html
He supports higher gas mileage requirements, no ANWR drilling, reduced reliance on foreign oil, and alternative energy. Presidential timbre?
I would ask the good senator to reach across the partisan divide and embrace this proposal by a lifelong Republican.
I would have Patzak and Pimental ready to go if they say they've never heard of RR.
I would read RR's comments on those two Khosla threads last week. He did a lot of prep for that phone call and shared his talking points. Lot of material, well organized there.
Good luck!
"The Politics of Oil: The Discourse Must Change" post:
http://www.theoildrum.com/story/2006/4/26/121441/891
Our recent analysis of the Deep Ocean Energy Resources Act (DOER):
http://www.theoildrum.com/story/2006/7/12/101236/478
Our recent posts debunking venture capitalist Vinod Khosla on the efficacy of ethanol:
http://www.theoildrum.com/story/2006/7/24/202222/351
http://www.theoildrum.com/story/2006/7/29/205642/963
and of course, our "first time here?" intro:
http://www.theoildrum.com/storyonly/2006/3/1/3402/63420
that's about as good of a summary as I can give you.
Maybe you should just explain what EROEI means, and give him two or three reasons why the numbers don't add up.
Peak Oil Presentation in the US Congress
http://www.energybulletin.net/4733.html
http://www.energybulletin.net/12751.html
Congressman Bartlett discusses peak oil with President Bush
http://www.energybulletin.net/7024.html
Transcript: Third Peak Oil Presentation by Congressman Bartlett
http://www.energybulletin.net/5948.html
Transcript: Fourth Peak Oil Presentation by US Congressman Bartlett, collegues.
http://www.energybulletin.net/6082.html
Ask him (since he is SOOOO Informed) if he has ever even HEARD of Rep. Roscoe Bartlett?
John
P.S. You're wasting your time.... :-)
Updated for May 2006 numbers from EIA's Petroleum International Monthly, August 2nd, 2006
Wow, I don't think I've seen this graph before. What's really striking is the 89-89 and 01-03 slumps in production growth, each of which looks like it could be "The Peak" if you don't look at the latter data.
In particular we need to combine the production numbers with news of "how hard" everybody is trying. If everybody is trying really hard, geopolitical issues are not clouding the image, and production continues to fall ...
Oil prices are nominal/non-inflation-adjusted monthly averages.
Last price is $74.46 for July 2006
We haven't seen in globally, but we have seen it locally, when Texas, in response to a 1,000% increase in oil prices, showed a 30% drop in production.
anyone know where i could get datasets for the two variables? i will run it on sas if someone can locate it
I'm not advocating looking at the past as any indication of the future, but right now only a few people think gas is going to get expensive in the 2010's. If you figure in a potential deflationary collapse you might not want to hold a long term future in oil. Those in the game see increasing prices in the future, but no one knows how high.
Were the previous production slumps demand driven? ie. did production decrease because the market did not require it?
I believe it can be argued that this production decline is not due to decreasing demand.
This may be the first time world oil production is incapable of meeting demand. The first time we have long term conservation forced upon us aka demand destruction.
The only way oil prices will decline is if we can reduce consumption at a rate greater than the supply declines.
When you take into account westtexas' export availability data and Matt Simmons production info it does not seem logical that we can count on having a nice production recovery as we did in the past.
Whoever said we won't realize we hit peak until years after the fact will be proven right.
I hope very much this is just another interim peak and the long term production up trend continues but I don't think all of the available information supports that hope.
I intend to get a 49cc scooter for the good weather days sooner or later, likely sooner. So, the demand destruction is occuring now, but it's only the start. Once we go on the downhill, the pace of the demand destruction will accellerate and it will be dislocating.
As to what's causing it this time, that's just the trillion dollar question isn't it.
Golan heights-> major aquafier
Souther Lebanon-> river Litani?
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?c=JPArticle&cid=1153292054929&pagename=JPost%2FJPArti cle%2FShowFull
"The general said the IDF was currently working according to an operational plan in which IDF troops would push their way through southern Lebanon until the Litani River, some 40 kilometers from the border with Israel"
To what extend can this conflict be over the scarce resource called water?
*The best reason why growing your own food is worth the effort: taste
The solution is supposed to be gas-fired desalination plants, but perhaps it's occurred to them that there are flaws with that plan...
http://www.ag.ndsu.nodak.edu/dickinso/research/2004/range04c.htm
most crops require one inch of water per week
I do however like the idea
Very little, I would think.
When Hitler annhilated the Jews, was it really because he wanted their resources or because he simply hated them?
Or how about the problems in the former Yugoslavia?
It's not so cut-and-dried as you might think.
The elimination of the Jews had quite a bit to do with resources.
As for the Yugoslavian problem, the simple premise there was one ethnic group didn't want another ethnic group remaining on a certain piece of land. The people involved ultimately might not have been aware it was about "resources" but I can guarantee you, that there were leaders promising land grants, and riches in the event of a win.
We are territorial creatures, and we have repeatedly shown the willingness to excercise ruthlessness if not outright violence to maintain or gain territory. And territory is not always specifically land. Given our higher thought processes we perceive many things to be "territory".
For instance if an idiot wandered on these forums and cursed up a storm and was being generally anti-social, the natural reaction would be to kick him from this virtual space in an effort to guard this online "territory". Or at least I would assume that would be the course of action.
Its all about resources or at the very least tied to resources in way or another.
The Jewish population of pre-WWII Germany was something on the order of 1%. I.E. it would have been impossible to run the Nazi war machine on the seized assets and slave labor of the Jews.
You can argue Hitler's Social-Darwinist outlook drove his desire to conquer Eastern Europe, but his pathological persecution of the Jews was driven by little more than ideological hate.
Your explanation is little more than derivative Marxist interpretation of history -- materialist explanation for a situation where they don't apply. Instead of 'class conflict' you invoke 'resource competition' as the primary explanation. Please explain how 'scarce resources' pushed Yugoslavia into civil war in the 1990s when scarce resources hadn't resulted in civil war earlier.
So?
That makes no sense.
Furthermore due to Germany's dire financial straits (a fact that many of Hitler's advisors and commanders had to deal with while Hitler was off being a charismatic presenter of "glorious" Nazi ideals) , the Assets of the Jews, did quite a bit to fund the War Machine of Germany (note I never said ALL the funding). Industrialists were quite often paid off in gold melted down from Jewish family heirlooms, and artworks formerly owned by the Jews. Houses were seized and redistributed to officers of the SS and Nazi army. Other Jewish owned facilities were used by state agencies for a myriad of purposes including administrative offices for industrialists, and military personnel and maternity homes for those women deemed Arian enough to be mated with SS.
Hitler's aggression against the Jews may have been seeded in emotional hate, but it was envy of Jewish wealth that allowed his hate to grow into genocidal movement embraced or at the least ignored by the Jews German neighbors.
As for Yugoslavia, its civil war was going on before Yugoslavia as a nation under the Soviet bloc. The Soviets basically bashed some heads and told the kiddies to sit down for 80 years. After its independence the fighting kicked up again. That region has been in violent flux for centuries with one group Ethnic/political or otherwise always trying to get the one up and be in power over the rest. Power mind you is the ability to use those resources within your realm of control any way you see fit. Scarcity in this case has nothing to do with it, its pure simple human greed, and the desire to be the one with ALL the resources, and leave none for anyone else outside your group.
Resources are the ultimate reason for conflict, whether its Timmy and Bobby fighting over a lollipop, or Hirohito and Roosevelt duking it out over the Pacific.
What they were fighting over, in the end, was over ideology and political preeminence among the major world powers, not scarce natural resources per se. Each country could have simply put aside their ideological disputes and traded peacefully for what they needed -- as happened with most of the world after the war. That they didn't indicates what they were really fighting over.
Of course, oil might be an exception. :-)
Also, while there ideological hatred of the jews was probably not a blind hatred. I would suspect it was also in large part a cynical ploy to get a scapegoat, some convenient, imaginary enemy which wouldn't be costly to fight because they didn't have much real power. Anti-semitism through history has usually been a means as well as an ends.
Japan also got unlucky. If those carriers had been in Pearl Harbor at the time Japan had attacked, the US would've been in a MUCH deeper hole on that front also. Enough perhaps to give the Germans enough time to develop "the bomb" before us, and then back their Japanese allies.
We look back on a lot of things in WWII with the rose colored lenses of a the victors. There were several events during that war, that either proved the Allies should've been playing the lottery, or someone upstairs was watching out for them. That war was very nearly lost a number of times.
And as for Japan and Germany getting more after WWII than they did by nationalist expansionist means, that was due largely in part by American/British willingness to forgive those populations and help rebuild those countries. A mercy that historically has rarely been given by most conquerers perhaps because historically, resources have been harder to attain and the conquerers needed it more for themselves, than needed it as a show of mercy and goodwill.
Make no mistake, there are times when war is a more sound "investment oppurtunity" than peace when it comes to resource aquisition. Generally speaking however, the World Governments currently in power thankfully see relative peace as a more profitable means. But as the pie gets smaller, how long is that going to last for?
Call me a Cynic, but I think there are some pacifists on this board that don't properly appreciate the dog eat dog world we live. And that applies from the lowest bacteria to the mighty human race. This world is competitive a game, and humans have perhaps enjoyed their "timeout" for too long. Barring some major paradigm shifts in thinking and some technological breakthrough, the human race had better be ready to re-enter the Darwinian race pretty soon.
I pray for the paradigm shift, or breakthroughs however.
I study this stuff for a living, so, rest assured, I understand perfectly well how dog-eat-dog it is out there. :-)
I don't disagree, but I think it's too simple an argument to say 'resource scarcity' is the end cause of war. It's too simple and, more to the point, often wrong. Resource constraints and resource scarcity are everywhere, but war, whether between states or peoples, is a relatively rare phenomenon. Why do you get resource scarcity and no war in one period or between one pair of actors, but resource scarcity and war in another period or between another set of actors?
Case in point, was the geopolitical competition between the US and the USSR over resources or ideology? If it was purely over access resources, why didn't Western Europe side with the Soviets during the Cold War? Why was the USSR seen as threat, but not the USA? Why is Russia seen as less of a threat today than it was some 30 years ago?
What I'm saying is that there are too many intervening variables that link 'resource scarcity' with 'war' to say definitively that resource scarcity causes war. Sometimes those variables push people into the world of Hobbes, and so makes resource scarcity a casus belli, sometimes those variables work to push people into more cooperative ventures with one another. It's just not that cut-and-dried.
And I think you are misreading what I've been saying. I'm not saying resource scarcity = an automatic path to war. I'm well aware of other influences which lead up to war. What I'm saying is that Resource Scarcity has repeatedly been an impetus on the path to war. Re-read my earlier posts. I used terms such as "did quite a bit to fund the War Machine " or "The elimination of the Jews had quite a bit to do with resources". Note I never say "had everything to do with"
I know resources are not the only, sole, or end-all reason for all wars. My point in the earlier posts is that resources very often are a MAJOR (note not complete) reason to go to war. Quite often they prove to be the final reason to push a group into war.
And you do yourself a discredit to present ideology as a somehow more important motivator for war when I personally would place ideology on par with resources when given the context of looking back through history. Quite often ideology is a means to motivate the masses to perform the goals of the leadership(which may or may not sincerely believe in those ideaologies themselves) which are often interested in securing resources that will ensure their place of power.
Case in point, ideology is a major factor in getting muslim kids to be suicide bombers. Do you honestly think a Bin Laden or Nasrallah(sp?) have the same confidence in that ideology to sacrifice themselves in a suicide bomb attempt on an Isreali Disco club? I doubt it, they view themselves as more important than the ideology(or at least more important than the kids in reference to the ideology), and they view their children not as people but as a resource to wreak havoc on the enemy.
With diminishing Oil, and a growing desire for it there are going to be strains in political relationships. Strains which will inflame already tense relations between countries which have ideological differences. Those differences didn't escalate to war during plentiful oil, but with additional strains via resources, it is very likely that resources will be the straw that breaks the camel's back. It also might be pointed out that in many cases nations didn't go to war, because the UN/US threatened to smack those nations upside the head if they did. With depleting oil, will the UN/US be credible in their threats should two nations decide to go at it especially if the UN/US can't fuel their own war machine effectively?
I can even see resource depletion reaching a level where countries of similar ideology go to war if the survival of each respective country's population is at stake. Case in point, Japan and S Korea have been getting very tit for tat over those gas fields in the ocean between them.
Like I said, I pray for a paradigm shift and a way out in a peaceful way, but I'm not naive enough to say, that we will just work together through this and it will all be spiffyness. In a way, depletion serves as a resource to burn the flames of ideology even hotter.
By lacking the Computer they had no Flight Sim players to put behind the joystick of the VJ. In our case, if a push come to shove case came up, we have zillions of Flight Sim players just itching to get behind the joystick of any cheap easy to drive fighter jet. A former Domino's Driver who has done Flight Sim would be perfect for putting behind the joystick of a "volksjager". Where's the keys to a VJ?
What's chilling about WWII is the original resource wars were over simple soil. Germany didn't have enough soil to grow its wheat, potatoes, etc on to feed her people. Germany was a food importer. Germany wanted the rich lands to the east, but the Soviets wanted them too.
There are a LOT of other factors - crippling reparations being paid by Germany, something like the US's debt, Depression, and literal riots in the streets - there were very aggressive Communist groups rioting, backed by the Soviets, and trying to take over Germany. They almost did. Germans were being killed in the streets, old folks were starving every winter, the Communist groups were bloodthirsty and to the average German the Nazis looked pretty good. You or I would make the same decision under the same circumstances.
Which goes to show the basic silliness of using 'scarce resources' as the cause of the war. All of these things could have been gotten by peaceful trade -- and were after the war -- yet they didn't choose this strategy. Why? You list them. Scarce resources are usually neither a necessary nor a sufficient reason for war. Folks usually get what they need a hell of a lot cheaper through trade.
So, wreck the place, get the whole world against us, and we'll be sure to not get it in the future, because the rest of the world will get together and wreck us now.
Kinda like an impulsive kid grabbing for the cookes and screaming for 'em, so Mom slaps his hand and he goes to his room without any. But ask nicely, work with ol Mom and you'll get your cookie.
What's a parallel? Japan after WWII. They got their asses handed to them and were banned from having a military. They realized the world is not obligated to love 'em and if they need stuff from the rest of the world, they'd better have something to trade. Oh, and little raw materials, so they even have to import their steel etc. Answer: Make such good products that the world beats a path to their door to buy 'em.
This is what the US should do, but noooo...... we're screaming and demanding a cookie and kicking Mom in the shin and about to get sent to our room with no dinner.
The Neocons were also quite clear before the election of George W. Bush. On the neocon website for the New American Century, read Rumsfeld, Perle and Wolfowitz who thought it patriotic to increase US military expenditure to exceed 50% of Worldwide military expenditure. Why do that unless you intend if necessary to go to war if neeeds be without allies and against anyone you choose?
cheers
Just because Hitler said Germany needed more land and resources didn't make it true. If resource scarcity drove the Germans to war, then why, after the war, did the West German standard of living incrase so much after half their country was taken from them? Worse position after the war, yet they do much better. Why? If the scarce resource hypothesis was true wouldn't Germany have starved to death after the war?
So? What's your point? Lots of things can explain their motives -- ideology, the will to dominate and control, not necessarily 'scarce resources' per se.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Litani_River
A dam, a lake, lots of hectares of irrigated fields. Nice thing to have in your pocket when you live in a desert...
Recall my earlier posts on possible Israeli Foundation planning. This would necessitate eventual total postPeak biosolar control of the entire Litani drainage basin and the mountains for defensible Earthmarine buffer zones. This is a much more desirable lower energy regimen than the building of indefensible water pipelines from the Tigris and Euphrates rivers.
If Israel is practicing long-range planning of predictive collapse and directed decline: their continued dependence on food imports, along with most other ME countries, is a non-viable postPeak strategy. Reducing the regional pop. Overshoot now with cheap energy and grabbing water and land is better for Israel in the long run.
But I have no proof that Israel has a Foundation up and running, but if they do-- the Lebanese evacuating to Syria and elsewhere will not be allowed to return. Time will tell.
Bob Shaw in Phx,AZ Are Humans Smarter than Yeast?
If their long range plan 50 years ago was to survive as they have(which I think it was), isn't that evidence of planning? What exactly are you seeing that others of us don't?
I will agree that internally one may consider Israel dysfunctional on many levels. However, in no way any more dysfunctional than the vast, overwhelming majority of states on this planet. Externally, they are ten times more functional than any of their peers(neighbors, Arabs, whatever).
And, interestingly, the relative functionality of any one of these same neighbors is directly relative to that particular state's ability to move towards peace and coexistence with Israel. Jordan being the prime example. Or maybe Turkey. Or Morocco. Would you rather live in Riyadh or Casablanca? My choice doesn't count. I've already lived in both places so I'd be biased.
Awaiting your response.
And by that same token James Bond is a highly dysfunctional person who is constantly wrestling with the fact he is nearly universally hated by all his neighbors (Mr. Goldfinger at the moment), at least partly due to his own actions, and he can't figure out how to come to peace with them.
Bond: So you want me to talk?
Fanatical FingerMan: No Mr. Bond, I want you to die.
Thxs for responding. You are entitled to your opinion of course, but consider that planning never guarantees success, but not planning insures failure. Alternative phrasing: People don't plan to fail, they just fail to plan.
The sad for all concerned parties in the Lebanon-Israeli Conflict is that it could very easily dissolve into an all out resource war as back in biblical times. If all imports and aid were cutoff to these countries, the resulting stress for the remaining vital supplies would soon lead to a widespread decimation of the area ecology and infrastructure. Far better for the long run ecology if one side wins, and usually it is the one that has planned ahead.
Foundation is merely sophisticated planning, execution, and feedback controls instead of a mish-mash of unfocused and untimely attempts. Proper predictive collapse and directed decline is much more than mere war-gaming simulation. Even Sun Tzu realized this way back in ancient Chinese times.
Bob Shaw in Phx,AZ Are Humans Smarter than Yeast?
In this case may be the Israelis should think about what happened to Cuba when the USSR failed.
Would they be able to withstand a faltering US as well as the Cubans did with USSR, but in a much more ressource constrained world?
Even Sun Tzu...
Don't be derogatory to the ancient Chinese, they knew better than most do today.
Namely, all the "leftovers" from a crazy religion, you cannot claim to be the "choosen people" and not expect this to backfire.
Anyway, they will find out...
You guys have no idea what the Pals go through. I didn't have any idea myself for the longest time.
http://www.nationalgeographic.com/xpeditions/lessons/01/g68/iraqoil.html
"King Hussein of Jordan identified water as the only reason that might lead him to war with the Jewish state."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/2949768.stm
The next major conflict in the Middle East - Water Wars
A Lecture by Adel Darwish- Geneva conference on Environment and Quality of Life, June 1994.
http://www.mideastnews.com/WaterWars.htm
Prescient, perhaps?
It is hard to understate the seriousness of water security to countries in the Mid-East. In additon to the global struggles for oil resource, there will be many regional wars over water, which is even more fundamental for survival.
Probably everyone has seen this Thomas Hardy quote. I'm afraid all of the recent data that I have reviewed suggest something at least approaching the worst.
Based on 2004 data, the top 10 net oil exporters, in descending order were: Saudi Arabia; Russia; Norway; Iran; Venezuela; UAE; Kuwait; Nigerian; Mexico Algeria.
Based on available EIA crude + condensate data (through April/May), seven of the top ten exporters are showing production declines since December. The other three--Venezuela, UAE and Algeria are showing no increase. However, the WSJ reports that Venezuelan production is falling.
In a guest post on TOD, in January, 2006 (based on Khebab's technical work), I focused on the top three exporters (SA; Russia and Norway), and I predicted that we would face a net export crisis--this year--before we saw a substantial decrease in world oil production. We knew that Norway was declining. The two question marks were SA and Russia. As noted above, the available EIA crude + condensate data are showing that all three have declined, relative to December.
Based on the HL plots, the Lower 48 and the North Sea peaked at about 50%. Russia peaked at a broad plateau centered on 50%. Based on Khebab's HL plot, Mexico is 50% depleted, and they are now declining.
Deffeyes put the world (conventional) 50% mark in late 2005, and the world is now declining.
What about unconventional?
The most recent EIA data on Canada are stunning. Through May, Canadian crude + condensate production is down 11% from December. The other great unconventional hope, Venezuela, is either down or flat.
In going about my daily activities, I am almost continually reminded of the scene in the movie "Titanic" where the ship's designer, Thomas Andrews, walked about the ship, in wonderment that it would soon be at the bottom of the Atlantic, and that most of the people on the ship would soon be dead.
Following is an excerpt from a website focused on Thomas Andrews:
http://www.geocities.com/athens/aegean/6136/index.html
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Knowing as he did that there was no time to lose, Andrews set out to do whatever he could to save as many lives as possible. At first he spent time searching staterooms for passengers to evacuate. Running into stewardess Annie Robinson on deck A, he told her to put her lifejacket on. "I thought it rather mean to wear it," she explained. "Never mind that!" he answered, "Put it on--walk about--let the passengers see you." When she protested further he told her again, "Put it on! If you value your life, put it on."Knowing as he did that there was no time to lose, Andrews set out to do whatever he could to save as many lives as possible. At first he spent time searching staterooms for passengers to evacuate. Running into stewardess Annie Robinson on deck A, he told her to put her lifejacket on. "I thought it rather mean to wear it," she explained. "Never mind that!" he answered, "Put it on--walk about--let the passengers see you." When she protested further he told her again, "Put it on! If you value your life, put it on."
The problem is I am still building my life vest, can we postpone the sinking for a while?
It's hard to discuss this subject with many people since they often bring up various outcomes that you cannot dispute...too many possible outcomes...I always try to tell them to be prepared (as much as possible) for the worst, and the rest is gravy.
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Take SA for example. What would that look like?
How about Mexico's Production vs consumption
China's? How about 1 billion new car drivers?
The oil they "Will" be producing will increasingly be for their own??
John
The rest of the world seems the only producers that might have excess capacity other than Libya and Iraq as noted.
Makes you think that the Iraq invasion was more deeply considered in many ways. Assuming they can get more online in the future.
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With the US economy consuming 25% of global oil, a recession here at or near peak would result in substantial increase in spare capacity.
Do we have a situation where we repeatedly run into the impacts of an "Oil Production Ceiling" without it being a simple peak?
-Ptone
He argues that geothermal "heat mining" could be made practical even if there are no nearby geysers or hot springs. You dig a hole, inject a lot of water, and harvest the superheated steam from another hole, which you use to generate electricity. You also have to create/expand the network of fractures between your injection well and your harvesting well. Of course, the downside of using the same technology used for oil drilling is that you have to outbid the oil companies for access to the equipment and people. That might be tough, given the ongoing shortages of rigs, people, etc.
The advantages include zero carbon emissions (although you do have to watch emmissions of sulfer and other pollutants), and near-zero concern about depletion of the earth's heat (there's quite a lot of it, and it is replenished by radioactive decay). Finally, the potential world wide capacity is orders of magnitude more than we could ever need.
I don't think I've seen this discussed here before. Why isn't geothermal considered as promising as solar or wind?
I'm not sure if the Prof above has a new method that changes this, or if he just goes with it, and proposes a continuous process of drilling wells, using their heat, and them moving on.
Rock breaks sissors also. Rock wins.
Energy inputs might be high - pumping water continuously - as well.
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Besides the large temperature gradient needed for efficient heat extraction (which you can get anywhere if you drill deep enough), and an efficient thermal exchange at those depths (which you might get by fracturing rock), you also need a larger enough heat flux from below than the rate at which you are extracting it.
The typical heat flux towards the earth surface is .06 watts per sq. meter--much smaller than the solar energy flux. To generate 1 MW of power, you would need to collect 100% of the geothermal energy over an area of 6.4 square miles. That's a lot of deep drilling.
Abundant energy does not equal abundant power.
Is it significant that the size of the "heated sphere" gets smaller the farther you down down? Or is this too minor a variable in the flux calculation?
I'm picturing a very very hot golf ball, inside a very hot baseball, inside a rather hot bowling ball, incide a nice comfortable soccer ball. Is there a better picture?
What is clear is that at any reasonable drilling depth (a few miles), the change in the heat flux from that at the surface is very small since the earth's radius is 4000 miles. If you drill 10 miles down, for example, the flux goes up by 0.5%
This whole essay is almost a satire of bad writing. I mean it is world class Elements of Style violation. I can't believe the writer is a native English speaker.
Lost in the swirl of mixed constructions is the fact the Saudis could refute Simmons any time by simply opening their records.
Poor english aside, I was struck by the fact that although they attempt to discredit Simmons, they never actually say he is wrong.
"Silence is golden when you can't think of a good answer." Muhammad Ali
"Your very silence shows you agree." Euripedes
"Silence is one of the hardest arguments to refute." Josh Billings
The last one is possibly the biggest reason they don't talk, no one can challenge them. There is no dicussion on the matter.
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For years Dr. Campbell worked in obscurity, publishing ASPO newsletters to mere hundreds of people worldwide, while being attacked mercilessly by guys like Michael Lynch, who seemed to make a career out of attacking him. I remember the beginning of every month, looking for the ASPO newsletter (which was usually late, sometimes by a week or more. Since it was "the only game in town" I would sometimes search the web two or three times a day, looking for it).
Dr. Campbell kept the topic alive, and when it became fashionable for other retired oil geologists (like Ken Deffeyes) to jump aboard, he faded back into his (well deserved) retirement. Luckily for me, about this time TOD came into existence, and I've been able to get my fix here (along with Energy Bulletin -- one goes broad, the other deep.)
Matthew Simmons represents an entirely new front, since he's not only not retired, but has a very large, successful business which has nothing to gain, and a lot to lose, by his being on the forefront. Getting trashed by heavies like Saudi Arabia and CERA doesn't do a lot to generate new investment business.
Also, he doesn't rely on graphs and mathmatical projections, but approaches the problem through analyzing Saudi oilfields using SPE reports. It is impossible to read "Twiligt in the Desert" without seeing that their oil fields are nearly exhausted. Indeed, Simmons was probably shocked by his own findings, as he completely wimped out in his concluding chapter, and left the conclusions to the reader. Later he has stiffened his spine, and compares PO to the threat of nuclear war.
It has probably already been discussed here, but his presentation to the Department of Defense is stunning. He states that "Middle East Oil production will not rise any further" and predicts SA oil to decline to 5M BBL/Day by 2012, and to 3.5 MBBL/Day by 2018. He predicts total ME oil to decline by half during that period, and that "The world is probably beyond peak oil and gas."
Other than Yergin, Lynch and others with an axe to grind, have there actually been a significant number of sound rebuttals?
http://www.fool.com/news/commentary/2006/commentary06080101.htm?ref=foolwatch
In this article, the author makes an argument that because US inventories are at an eight year high, then lack of supply is not much of a factor in current oil prices. I don't know much about oil inventories or what they're for, but I wonder if he is misusing this statistic. If you compare the oil inventories over the years against consumption, they're not that high. In fact they look lower than they were before about 1996.
I won't comment on what they "Were" for, but I would be willing to bet that while people may have to walk miles to get food because of the "No Gas" signs at the stations, I bet the last ones to get filled up will be F16's, Blackhawks, and Carriers and subs. So I hope that the general population doesn't get to secure in their feeling that the SPR is there for "Their" emergency needs.
Just a guess on priorities.
John
"We'll keep doing what we're doing, until we can't, then we won't.
For instance, if beef goes into short supply, you switch to chicken or fish on a moment's notice. But the average person (and the average corporation) has deep investments in its oil based modes of operation. Replacing those is not just picking up something different for dinner. It requires a massive reinvestment, which people may not be able to instantly do, and which they may fear doing because there have been prior price shocks that went away.
So past history gives experience that says "don't switch" which coupled with the size of the cost of switching both discourage changing away from oil based systems. The consequence is people keep driving that SUV because it's paid in full. They keep using the oil based furnace because it's expensive to replace and this one is running fine. So people look and say, "Gee, my SUV will cost me $2000 per year in gasoline costs and a Prius would cost me $450, but I own the SUV outright and the Prius will cost me $25,000 to buy so I'll stick with the SUV for 5 more years."
If big players think contract prices will move away from that pattern and begin getting more expensive the farther out the contract date building inventory makes sense.
Just to make things clear: one would never say that, for example, Chevron is in trouble because they are carrying more inventory than they carried eight years ago. Financial analysts care about a company's inventory/ sales ratio, measured in days' sales outstanding. Fluctuations in that ratio tell us if the corporation is running so lean as to risk shortages (a possible concern with oil refining & marketing) or has too much working capital tied up in carrying excessive, slow selling inventory (which would likely raise a red flag if true for a retailer like Wal-Mart or Best Buy).
So . . . everyone will buy cheap hydrogen (from where?) and sell expensive electricity to, um, everyone else!
Laws of Physics? We'll just have to revise them!!
"But the point is you can't actually go to a renewable energy society without a way to store the energy. The problem with renewable energy is that it's intermittent. The sun isn't always shining. The wind isn't always blowing. Your water tables can be down for hydroelectric on the dams. Even biomass has yearly differences in terms of yield although it's more predictable. The point is that when the sun is shining and the wind is blowing and the water tables are up, you generate electricity with these renewable sources of energy. Now, you'll have surplus because electricity can't be stored in any major way, even with lithium batteries. ... So, electricity blows as soon as you generate it. But if you have a surplus when it's cheap, you take some of that surplus electricity generated with renewable energy, and you electrolize the water, just like in high school chemistry, with the anode and cathode, and grab the hydrogen. Hydrogen's the way to store renewable energy so that you have backup for power, and you have it for transport, because with transport you have to have stored energy. ... It [hydrogen] is a medium to store renewable energy. ..."
Money and energy spent on that boondoggle will only hasten Peak Oil rather than alleviate it.
OK, I can think of two reasons to store renewable energy: (1) Portablility, for vehicles and anywhere we use batteries, and (2) if we're generating more renewable electricity than we can use off-peak, i.e. at night.
For vehicles and portables, the horrendous efficiency losses (like half in electrolysis and half again in the fuel cell) make batteries look better to me. And you can recharge batteries off-peak, and don't need a new distribution system. For larger applications, more energy per pound can be stored in a tank of hydrogen plus fuel cell than in a bank of batteries, but every joule delivered costs you more primary energy.
As for excess off-peak generation by renewables, that's not a problem just yet! Hydropower has its own storage. Solar hours are peak hours. Wind power, when spread geographically and shared over the grid, can average out nicely and contribute even to the nighttime load.
Rifkin says biomass needs to be converted to hydrogen for seasonal storage -- haha.
This paper is years old, I'll try to find some newer research..
http://www.dft.gov.uk/stellent/groups/dft_roads/documents/page/dft_roads_024056-01.hcsp#TopOfPaged
This describes a few different chemistries, most requiring Platinum, the nickel-plate versions running much hotter, not Approp for Auto or prob. Home use..
http://americanhistory.si.edu/fuelcells/basics.htm
"Ten tons of ore and a five-month process are needed to make just one ounce of it."
"While new uses for platinum are being discovered almost daily, its supply is extremely restricted. Remarkable difficulties exist in its mining and production, with more than 130 metric tons of new platinum reaching the world market each year; that figure is less than 5% of gold production. All of the platinum ever mined would fill a room measuring less than twenty-five feet on a side. Refining the metal poses its own problems; platinum occurs naturally in combination with other metals, necessitating an intricate process that takes about six months.
This problem is exacerbated by the limited sources of platinum production. The world's growing appetite for platinum is essentially satisfied by the mining activities in just two regions. The Bushveld Complex, which is just north of South Africa's capital, Pretoria, is one. The mines in this area produce more than two thirds of the platinum that reaches the markets each year. The other site is in the Noril'sk-Talnakh region in the extreme north of Siberia in Russia. It is estimated that at least one quarter of the world's supply is either currently mined here or is from above ground stocks that were accumulated over many years. Russia is the only nation with significant stocks of platinum and it is believed that these may be running out.
http://www.geolsoc.org.uk/template.cfm?name=SPKL293847592846702465
There's plenty of Hydrogen around, but can we make enough 'platinum keys' to first box it, and then unlock it again?
Is this a basic bottleneck, or do we have usable workarounds?
OK, in comes 'NanoNickel', to the rescue!
('Nano is the new Meta' - Mork Knew, he knew!)
http://www.fuelcellsworks.com/Supppage2519.html
"The efficient generation of hydrogen from a source other than petroleum (i.e. Hydrolysis cells) and the efficient conversion of hydrogen into energy (i.e. Fuel cells) are two of the most pressing needs of the century. Platinum is currently the only known catalyst to satisfy this development need and there is not enough platinum available in the world. Through this twofold effort between QSI and DSE, we hope to electrochemically demonstrate that nano-materials are an excellent replacement for platinum."
Bob Fiske
That is, do something more valuble then electricity out of the hydrogen when you have manufactured it. If it is electricity you need build more nuclear powerplants, wind powerplants, combined heat and power powerplants, solar powerplants and so on.
Another good buffer by usage is nighttime or excess capacity production of ice or salt solution to buffer large AC systems such as district cooling systems.
It's a good read. He does talk about decentralization of energy production, the convergence of communication and decentralized energy production, and the corporate cultures that allow/force change.
Now I also recall there were people researching other catalysts for use in fuel cells in order to bring down costs and make them more sustainable. Has anyone read anything about that?
Bob Fiske
I tend to agree with you that this Rifkin guy is nuts.
It seems like he has been around forever. He is an opportunist and a self-styled expert on any topic that is currently hot. I have read some of his earlier books and articles, and my impression is that he is just another hack trying to come across as some sort of brilliant futurist.
Most of his pronouncments have little basis in technical reality, and I don't think he has a very good understanding of science and technology.
Guys like Rifkin can do more harm than good, because they give the layman the impression that a future better world is easy to attain if we jsut do the smart thing (his own idea of the smart thing, of course).
Attention must not be paid.
Might the same be said about Kunstler?
Is this not true?
Yes, the same CAN be said for Kunstler. My impression is that his intense hatred for the American version of suburbia is more esthetic than technical: he just doesn't like the way suburbia looks, and the corny suburban lifestyle is beneath an urbane intellectual as himself.
While he makes some good points, and is an extremely good writer, there is something very self-serving about him that I do not like. He is also pretty lose with factual material and careless with numbers.
Regarding the last comment: we must do the smart thing, but it won't be easy or pleasant.
joule said it best - perfect description.
I'm sorry, but in my own opinion, throw Kunstler in a room and toss in Strunk & White and a spellchecker in with him and you get the "black box" equivalent of Rifkin.
Man, don't let me get started about suburbia during the 'old days'! (But I will.)
It was great! I grew up in a small town in northern New Jersey roughly 12 miles, as the crow flies from, Times Square (but at least 50 minutes if you had to take a bus). Regardless of its proximity to NYC, culturally, it might as well have been a small town in rural Ohio or Indiana.
To prove that point, my home town was also the home town of none other than Ozzie Nelson, that quintessential icon of the now mythical Fifties (though he never set foot in it once after he had become famous; but that, I suppose, is forgivable. He did, however, once mention us briefly on the Ozzie & Harriet Show, and that set everyone in town totally bonkers).
But the point is: it was classical small-town America ... from out little Main Street, where you could buy almost anything you needed within walking distance, to the truly Hollywood-set Fouth of July celebrations we used to have. It was right out of a Frank Capra movie. In fact, if it were a movie, you would say it was too corny.
The old guy who lived next door to us was a veteran of the Spanish American War! During the Fouth of July parade (circa 1956) they would ride him in the back of a Cadillac convertible, where he'd be smiling and waving at everyone. Spanish American War!
At the time, when I was a kid, I found all this stuff tedious and boring, but today I wish I were able to go back and revist that time and that lost piece of American culture. What has replaced it is something I don't even want to think about.
Forgive me - it is just a bout of old-fartism raising its ugly head.
But to get back to the point at hand: those suburbs back then were NOT anything like Kunstler's vision of the sterile, excessive, American nightmare.
No, it was the solid expression of the post-War American Dream for working men and women, many from second-generation immigrant families.
So, what's so bad about that?
And it's not "Kunstler's vision of the sterile, excessive, American nightmare." Anyone who can look with unclouded eyes sees the same thing. Pick a point here at home, yes the picture's the same.
Kunstler is overdramatic and very negativistic, but when he flails suburbia, I understand where he is coming from.
No, the town I grew up in was Ridgefield Park, NJ, which is just south of Teaneck and east of Hackensack.
Ridgewood was (is) a far more upscale yuppish town, whereas Ridgefield Park was more of a high-end working-class town.
The irory is that the town has gone downhill since I was a kid but the real estate prices have gone through the roof, mainly due to the fact that it is within commuting distance to Manhatten.
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No, the same cannot be said about Kunstler. Kunstler comes across as everything but a brilliant futurist. No one paints a bleaker future than Kunstler. And Kunstler is dead right to hate suburban sprawl. We Americans live in a world built around the automobile and we are swiftly beginning to see why that is such a folly. If you do not see the folly in suburban sprawl, then you have a problem. And Kunstler understands the difference between technology and energy. Rifkin obviously does not, nor does a few other people on this list.
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What smart thing could we do that would solve the energy crisis? Do you think it is likely that we could convince everyone on earth "to do the smart thing?" No there is no "smart thing" we can do that will get us out of this damn mess. The population is going skyward while carrying capacity is plunging like a rock. We are already deep into overshoot. There is no easy or smart thing we can do to fix everything. It is so naive to believe we can just fix everything.
Exactly. I need not say more.
I'm happy as hell that you have chosen to post here rather than the other forum.
Todd
Thanks for playing.
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So it's over? Should we all throw up our hands and buy Hummers? Party down? Cuz hell, if we're screwed anyway...
There is no "fix" for the world. There is no "smart thing" you or anyone else can do to fix the problems with the world. Just try to save your own ass because that is the best you can hope for.
(Steve Forbes speaking during the Forbes Conference, Sydney, Australia, August 30th 2005).
We just need oil to be at 80$ by the end of the month.
http://www.armytimes.com/story.php?f=1-292925-1684093.php
Shortages in U.S. stocks of specialty metals are leading to critical spare parts shortages for Army helicopters flying in Iraq, a top Army aviation general said.
Spare parts manufacturers are unduly constrained by the Berry Amendment -- it contains the so-called "Buy American" rules for Pentagon purchases -- and it is causing critical shortages in the specialty steel that goes into bearings used in helicopters, said Maj. Gen. James Pillsbury, commander of the Army's Aviation and Missile Command.
Pillsbury said shortages in U.S. stocks of other specialty metals, such as titanium, are also leading to supply chain backups. Titanium shortages in the aerospace industry are getting worse and the problems are likely to multiply in the future, Pillsbury said. He advised manufacturers to increase their stocks of specialty metals in anticipation of future spare parts needs for Army helicopters that will be flying in Iraq for years to come.
http://www.aluminum.org/Template.cfm?Section=Home&template=/ContentManagement/ContentDisplay.cfm &ContentID=6700
http://www.alacom.com/jetmetal.htm
http://efoia.bis.doc.gov/shortsupply/mallory.pdf
http://www.manufacturingtalk.com/news/lag/lag101.html
Over the past year, much has been said about the rise in oil prices and shortages of supply. For the engineering sector there has been an even bigger concern. The price of many metals has risen beyond comprehension.
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,19582738-12342,00.html
Commodity price rises were fuelled by a combination of acute shortages and hedge fund buying. Those metal shortages will diminish somewhat in a slowdown.
http://www.manufacturing.net/ind/article/CA439067.html
While China was listed as a top concern, distributors also pointed to other issues that are affecting their ability to compete. Steel prices, surcharges, shortages, and scrap metal prices are creating havoc in the channel, according to respondents.
"Scrap metal shortages are dramatic-ally increasing material costs and decreasing product availability," said one Midwest distributor.
http://www.metalfinishing.com/editors_choice/articles/060106_Stevenson.htm
Unprecedented inflation strained economic gains in 2005. Metal prices continued to rise coupled with metal shortages due to increasing global demand, particularly in China and the greater Pacific Rim. Utility prices have skyrocketed, increasing 50% from 2004 to 2006. Both electric and particularly natural gas will continue to drive up the cost of sales. Battening down the hatches to benefit from solely internal efficiency gains can't possibly offset the onslaught of unprecedented inflation expected to continue to rise well into 2006. Prices will have to increase and be passed on to our customers.
There was a story in the Dallas paper a couple of weeks ago about a guy that electrocuted himself trying to steal the copper wire in a live power line.
Hey, maybe this is how we'll be able to solve that difficult overpopulation problem!
"Scrooge kept his office door open, that he might prevent his assistant from meddling with the thermostat. And so he heard the door open, and saw the visitor enter. A moment later Cratchit announced, "A gentleman from the Transportation Coalition to see you, sir. A mister..."
"I know who he is," growled Scrooge. "Since you seem to be incapable of getting rid of him, send him in and I'll do it myself."
Despite this inauspicious welcome, the caller began, "Mr. Scrooge, in light of your vast experience in the oil business, I would like to solicit your support for our Clean Air Initiative. We..."
"What, have the shoe stores all closed?" Scrooge interrupted.
"Uh, not as far as I know," said the caller.
"And are not bicycles still available?", Scrooge asked.
"Yes, but I do not see the relevance," the visitor replied.
"The point, sir," said Scrooge, "is that if you Greens want cleaner air, you can all bloody well walk or ride a bicycle!"
"But Mr. Scrooge, that is hardly practical," came the reply. "Many stores have no provisions to reach them on foot. Few communities are still providing sidewalks. Those who must walk or bicycle in the streets are taking their lives in their hands!"
"All the better," replied Scrooge. "Let them be run down in the streets and thus rid the world of its excess population. Now that would do something positive for the environment. Good day!"
-I was poking around for the real script, but this was irresistable..
http://www.evconvert.com/article/a-christmas-car
Bob Fiske
"Are humans more compassionate than Blue-Green Algae?"
Like, USA against just about everyone else? We seem to be hell-bent on taking on the entire Muslim world*, while disgusting the non-Muslim world enough that they might just sit by and watch, tapping their foot, whistling, while we get our asses kicked.
*99% of which consists of really nice, decent people, but we seem to be declaring war on them en masse so they're going to be the counterparts of the really nice, decent people here who fought the Nazis in WWII. Now, we're the Nazis.
Oil CEO...from price vs. production...is this historical, price increasing, yet supply falling?
Global recession/lack of demand and a falling price previous or coincident with these production peaks/plateaus are the preferred explanations and I think valid. One interesting thing about this plateau is that it is longer and shallower than the other two. While high price is often cited as incentive to produce more, it is also a cause for demand destruction which would in turn limit the need for production.
I've also done a version of this graph in the past with Drilling activity, but I haven't updated it in about 3 months.
Keep in mind the investment-exploration-production cycle time-frame which is often cited as being as long as ten years. Maybe there is a bunch more oil about to come online, but it will just take a while. The oil industry has been burned before, maybe there are a bunch of companies that are in no real rush to pump more oil. They seem to be doing OK without it. See Jim Jubak's recent article on MSN money for some details.
The Arlington Star-Telegram had a column on Sunday in which Who Killed the Electric Car was reviewed. The columnist, Ed Wallace, included in his introduction this bit:
Wallace seems to feel that something like the EV-1 might be appropriate right about now.http://www.aramcoexpats.com/Pipeline/InSearchOfOil/CategoryID/15/ContentList.aspx
One Jabal School pupil learned to type at 100 wpm and expressed an early aspiration to become Aramco's "first Saudi secretary." A Bedouin boy, he had been attracted to Aramco in the first place because of the opportunity for schooling, joining in 1947 at the age of 12. Not long after he returned from the U.S. in 1963 with two degrees, including a Stanford M.S. in geology, his name appeared in a lengthy Wall Street Journal article about Aramco. At the time only one Saudi had risen as high as department manager. Asked this time about his aspirations, the 30-year-old Ali Naimi replied, tongue-in-cheek, "Becoming the first Saudi president of Aramco." That was to transpire in 1984, and in 1995 he was named Saudi Arabia's Minister of Petroleum and Mineral Resources.
Always had a way with words ...
Here is the latest on the Mexican saga, where tourism declines is also putting the hurt to the economy.
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MEXICO CITY -- A human head washes up on an Acapulco beach. Protesters hassle visitors at makeshift checkpoints in the colonial city of Oaxaca. And in Mexico City, leftist demonstrators turn the tourist draws of Reforma Avenue and the Zocalo plaza into sprawling, ragtag protest camps.
Growing political unrest and drug violence are making foreigners think twice about visiting Mexico, where the $11.8 billion tourism industry is the country's third-largest legal source of income, after oil and remittances from migrants in the United States.
Mexico has been struggling since last fall, when Hurricane Wilma hit the country's biggest tourism moneymaker, Cancun.
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So we have rapid Mexican oil depletion, rising poltical polarization, increasing drug violence and corruption, decreasing remittances going south from increasing US-mexican unemployment as construction decreases here in real estate, US inflation is reducing their monetary ability to create discretionary income to fund their remittances home, and the Mexican population is severely straining water and electricity availability. Not a pretty picture at all, and decreasing tourism leverages Mexico into decline even more.
The next Presidente' is facing increasing pressure to roll back NAFTA. AMLO protestors blockaded the Mexican stock market today, and they hope to blockade the airports next. Oh, joy!?
This STRATFOR Article posits that the oil infrastructure may be next for political shutdown.
Bob Shaw in Phx,AZ Are Humans Smarter than Yeast>
I'm just Jaded.
Thanks for the update, Tontotellia
YUKOS declared bankrupt--Is PEMEX to soon follow in the Global Oil Endgame?
Quote from the Kommersant article:
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"The YUKOS case will enter the textbooks not as a unique case of the bankruptcy of an oil company, but as an example of economic, political and juridical conniving."
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Putin's economic hitmen must be celebrating. Makes one wonder what the economic hitmen from the IMF, WTO, and World Bank are planning for PEMEX so its assets can be scooped up for pennies on the dollars.
Bob Shaw in Phx,Az Are Humans Smarter than Yeast?
Not weeping for YUKOS, but I am intrigued how Kommersant needed to compare YUKOS to PEMEX--if Zbigniew Brezinkski's Grand Chessboard is in play--all kinds of non-obvious subtle moves for advantage are afoot as the key players contest on a global scale. Food for thought.
Bob Shaw in Phx,Az Are Humans Smarter than Yeast?
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-restaurants3aug03,1,6052517.story?coll=la-headlines-business&a mp;ctrack=1&cset=true
Gas Costs Eat Into Restaurant Sales
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Same-store sales at Macaroni Grill, which like Chili's is owned by Dallas-based Brinker International Inc., are falling at an almost 5% clip.
Applebee's International Inc., P.F. Chang's China Bistro Inc. and even the typically successful Calabasas Hills-based Cheesecake Factory Inc. all have fallen victim to the same trend.
"The restaurants first started to see this in May. It was worse in June and the few numbers we have seen for July show that it is accelerating," Smith said.
Almost 30% of respondents in a June survey of 680 Californians by BIGresearch said they had cut back on eating out in response to high gasoline prices. That's up from 21% in the same survey a year earlier.
The rate of Peakoil denial in the average citizen and our Govt. is shocking -- ideally every American should have read the Hirsch Report and Carter's 1977 Sweater Speech by now. But I doubt if most of Congress has carefully considered these two vital studies, and state and local authorities are probably even more unaware of their existence. You would think at a very minimum that all govt. employees would receive these in their govt. email accounts to promulgate change. Such is life.
Instead, as Matt Savinar suggests, we need to follow the money and the inherent corruption that arises from greed. I think Zimbabwe is an instructive example as this former breadbasket of Africa could have easily hired the best economic advice possible years ago, but purposely chose not to do so. Over twenty years of ignoring proper and realistic policy planning. The resulting economic decline and deprivation is shocking to outsiders, yet the insiders are still advancing their personal agendas for profit.
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Over the last 26 years of independence he {Mugabe} has not been able to overcome the inertia of ZANU PF's encumbering liberation war or historical ties and the party's politics of patronage.
After all, some of the ministers are his liberation war colleagues who could, from a political point of view have helped him to exploit the power of incumbency to remain in the catbird seat. From that point of view, his situation is akin to that of someone who has malignant lung cancer. He knows he needs the lung. But if it is not removed then its malignancy spells doom.
This is why I, and indeed millions of Zimbabweans, feel that these failed ministers should simply walk the plank. Hoping that they will change is to me, hopefulness bereft of realism. It is not possible for them to change because they do not give a damn about the people. Self-enrichment is all that matters to them. And President Mugabe has acknowledged as much. Or else plans to arrest the accelerating economic meltdown will go down the plughole because his ministers have now become the problem.
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Zimbabwe has blown it for 26 years, yet America has blown it even longer since the the first oilshock and US Lower 48 peaked in the early seventies 35 years ago, or two whole generations of citizenry. Thirty years minimum since the Sweater Speech and our leaders have further jeopardized our national security as we are now more dependent on energy imports than ever before. Pres. Carter understood Prof. Bartlett's exponential growth, but every leader since then has preferred to remain silent while TPTB silently feathered their nests.
Are we better off than we were 35 years ago? Is the US a more secure, happier, and more equitable society widely admired by the World at large? Recall the recent MSNBC study that points to most Americans feeling that their children will be worse off than previous generations--they know something is up, but most just can't put their fingers on the exact reasons.
The Zimbabwean leaders had good and honest intentions since their independence so long ago, as did ours since the first OPEC oil shock. What went so wrong that Americans are now willing to sacrifice their children's blood to an Iraqi sand dune? Why can't people resist MPP and the Tragedy of the Commons if they understand these principles?
Zimbabwe has now shifted over 66% of their labor force {source CIA Factbook} to agricultural labor, yet they still must import food. Will the postPeak US leadership have adequate Foundation plans ready-to-go to provide sufficient localized permaculture food growth and distribution? Or is our leadership only looking out for themselves? The CIA Factbook again states that farming, forestry, and fishing is only 0.7% of the US labor force, where are the postPeak plans for 66% of us to labor daily for our food? WTSHTF, the world will have very little food to import to our shores. Will our breadbasket go postPeak empty?
https://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/us.html
Our leaders take a pledge to defend the US Constitution and promote the general welfare-- I suggest they get moving to mitigate detritus entropy with proactive planning to ease, as peacefully as possible, the coming Paradigm Shift. My theory is that Foundation planning of predictive collapse and directed decline is the best path forward. Otherwise, Zimbabwe's paradigm shift will look like a picnic compared to ours. 'Nuke their Ass--I want Gas' and the '3 Days of the Condor' scenario is not a viable postPeak solution compared to localized permaculture. Hoes and shovels grow more food than a gun ever will.
Bob Shaw in Phx,AZ Are Humans Smarter than Yeast?