Indian Point Nuclear or LNG
Posted by Glenn on June 8, 2006 - 7:59am in The Oil Drum: Local
The Indian Point nuclear facility in Westchester has long been controversial. Fears of a Chernobyl or Three-Mile-Island accident near one of the nation's most densely populated areas has long been a source of anxiety for nearby residents and elected officials. Then, following the attacks of 9/11, when one of the planes that hit the Wolrd Trade Center flew almost directly over the Nuclear facility, the calls for the closure increased to a fever pitch. The frontrunner for the Governorship of NY, Eliot Spitzer, has joined this chorus of protest to call for the permanent closure of the 2 nuclear facilities upon the expiration of their permits in 2011 and 2013.
However, everyone realizes that replacing them will be quite difficult since they currently supply about 10% of NY State's total electricity demand. A new study released this week and reported in the NY Times points out the obvious trade-off between nuclear and fossil fuels to generate electricity. One of study's main conclusion is that New York may have to build a Liquified Natural Gas terminal nearby to secure its access to natural gas. Why is that? Because North American Supplies of Natural gas are already tight, more nuclear is unpopular, coal is seen as too dirty and renewables are going to need a long time to ramp up.
The amount of generating capacity under construction now is inadequate to meet peak demand in 2009, and the shortfall will be far larger if Indian Point closes, the report said. In seven to nine years, the area will need 3,000 megawatts of additional electric capacity if Indian Point is running, and 5,000 megawatts if it is not, the report said.
Well, what about conservation? What about trying to decrease the amount of demand to save the electricity Indian Point puts out?
One of the authors, Parker D. Mathusa, said in a telephone interview that there were big opportunities for improving efficiency of electric use and expanding electric production. But Mr. Mathusa, a member of the board of directors of the New York State Energy Research and Development Authority, said that "to replace 2,000 megawatts of base-load power, very low-cost power, in a critical part of the country that is growing, with air quality that is some of the worst in the country, one would have to pause."
I basically agree with this statement. As much as potential there is to reduce demand for electricity, it's going to be very hard to replace 2,000 megawatts of power.
So that's where LNG comes in...
The report said one alternative to Indian Point was something else that environmentalists do not like: ports for tankers carrying liquefied natural gas. In fact, natural gas, which now sells for more than double its price in the late 1990's, is the only fuel practical for large-scale plants in the New York City area, according to experts, because coal or new reactors are not politically acceptable.
Based on the analysis I did of NY State's electrical generation source, I cannot see how we can cut out nuclear from the equation. Also given the choice between LNG and burning dirty coal, LNG is clearly better in terms of environmental impact. Where to site that LNG terminal will be a nightmare, but I suspect there are some suitable sites in Long Island or New Jersey.
And so the debate continues...
Why is siting them so hard? It's a dangerous process, right? Long Island's harbors I don't think are that great, particularly on the South Shore. I'd say a better bet would be the Connecticut coast. A city like Bridgeport with a long history of having an industrial waterfront might be a logical place to put it. It's got a great habor and they need jobs there for economic revitalization. But Bridgeport is the largest city in Connecticut. If it is too dangerous then that is the last place in the state to put it. Other great harbors in Connecticut are at Stamford (no way the financial services sector would ever allow a LNG terminal and it doesn't need jobs, so that's out), New Haven and New London. Those last two might be O.K. as well. New London (Actually Groton, across the river) has a Navy submarine base, which might make it impossible, but it has a relatively low civiliation population to expose to hazards. Jersey's best shipping ports are at Newark and Elizabeth, but these are heavily used for containerization. Off the top of my head, I'm thinking the most logical places are Bridgeport and New Haven. So long as these things are safe. What does anybody know about LNG safety issues?
When given the choice between LNG and Nuclear, I'm starting to side with LNG. Even if you assume the worst, which probably has a very small chance - like less than .001% in either case, at at least the LNG explosion would be localized and have no lingering environmental effects. NG is much cleaner than coal or oil making it more environmentally friendly (among the fossil fuels). With Nuclear, a leak or explosion would have increased radiation levels for decades or centuries.
Frankly, though I think we need both. And we really need to do everything we can to increase renewables and get demand growth under control.
While a spill in a harbor would temporarily freeze the water around the spill, the huge heat sink of the water would eventually contribute to the flashing of the LNG to mix with air. Add a source of ignition and you are toast (literally). What isn't cooked can be "liquified" by the blast wave.
The acronym stands for Boiling Liquid Expanding Vapor Explosion, but for those with a dark sense of humor in a plant environment where such things can occur it also stands for Blast Leveling Everything Very Effectively.
The Broadwater project (if approved) would be a floating terminal in the middle of the Sound. All three propoosals have generated considerable controversy. Connecticut would never allow an LNG port if they controlled the approval process.
You're also aware that there is a moratorium on the siting of any LNG facility in New York State? There are three LNG storage facilities (2 in NYC, one on LI) that existing before the moratorium was enacted in 1976.
Happy to discuss and provide details/links if you want. The issue of LNG vs. nuclear will be very devisive in the environmental community.
Nuke power is probably also cheaper in the long term. Oil, LNG, and NG prices will probably fluctuate like crazy. Uranium lasts longer and stronger and doesn't require such frequent transport unlike fossil fuels. Plus modern plants can also reprocess and reuse spent fuel, further extending the life of already mined materials.
Not to mention getting away from the petrochemical industry... to another energy industry, sure, but...
(Remember war and terrorism in nuclear risks as well, not just plant safety performance. The safety performance of the new designs has not in practice been validated by the way and many reports raise safety issues with the new designs like lack of containment for some, graphite pebble fire hazards in case of pebble bed, etc. etc. They appear to solve the meltdown problems but as with many man made complex systems, new issues have this nagging habit of emerging when operational experience is gained.)
Don't forget the waste handling issues, even in the case of breeders and reprocessing. For instance, Sellafield in the U.K and La Hague in France are among the biggest sources anthropogenic radioactive pollution in Europe. Only uranium mining approaches their pollution.
It is unlikely that nuclear will be cheaper than the myriad renewables and efficient distributed cogeneration use of natural gas in the near future assuming LNG goes ahead when all the post operational costs and effects are accounted for.
I would not call it good.
Japan gets half of it's LNG from Indonesia. They have been told that existing contracts will not be renewed in 2008 & 2010 since NG is needed domestically in Indonesia.
UK is facing an electricity/NG crisis of epic proportions. TOD-UK sees 2014 (+ or -) as the "crunch time" when the UK cannot afford/get the LNG it needs.
East Canada is talking about importing LNG from Russia. We will need what we LNG we can import for home heating and high value manufacturing.
Peak World Gas is looming.
The dollar's value is "not certain" going forward due to our massive trade deficits (-$300 billion for oil today, -$800 billion overall, add LNG, higher oil prices, etc.)
Think 2020, 2025. Do you want Indian Point on or off-line then ?
I think NY is going to need some nuclear long into the future, just maybe not so close to 25 million people.
Unfortunately if we do neither, we are just going to burn more coal or face rolling blackouts.