Rita Ashore...Amazing Destruction...Will She Stall? Will She Come Back to the Gulf?
Posted by Prof. Goose on September 24, 2005 - 1:07am
We cover all things petroleum and peak oil here at TOD. There are important posts below this, including an important one by HO and Stuart's post on climate change and the intensity of hurricanes...and I encourage you to read both of these very important and timely pieces...right after HO's piece below, there's the CONSTANTLY UPDATED Rita resources page, which has all sorts of new maps, weather models, and especially the KAC/UCF damage predictions that were so correct last time (so many rigs on the E side of this storm, where the wind/surge will be incredible...and the refineries with a direct hit possible on Beaumont...). Other pieces are interspersed between all that and some very extensive petroleum/hurricane coverage, which covers about the next ten or so posts. Enjoy. And to all of you folks new to TOD, welcome. Pull up a chair and get ready to learn...
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It shows shut-in jumping up againg because of Rita, before it had a chance of going down.
Most of the models then have the remnants of Rita heading southeast, south, or southwest back past already damaged areas. The flooding from such a track would be extremely bad.
We need to watch the media to make sure they don't declare everything is fine as soon as Rita moves inland. This could be a 2-4 day rain event in TX/LA after landfall.
So true. Perhaps we should create a contest and award for the story headline that is most out of touch with reality. We could call it the "Pollyanna Prize" -- in contrast to the Pulitzer.
"Water poured over a patched levee Friday, cascading into one of the city's lowest-lying neighborhoods and heightening fears that Hurricane Rita would re-flood this devastated city...
It's already happening!
(friend) called a few minutes ago; he's in a Cajun bar on Lake Charles,
near where he thinks Rita will make landfall. He's fine, expects to
continue that way, and asked me to let you all know that.
He said, and I quote verbatim, "This is going to be the worst one yet."
Rita's like 36 hours away, but the rain was already coming in sheets, and
near-horizontally. He's expecting serious flooding in that area, and major
problems with the refineries and chemical plants located there.
"Our worst fears came true," a National Guard official said. "The levee will breach if we keep on the path we are on right now."
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9438536/
Now on to the questions, I have two windows up, one showing the map from rigzone with the rigs in Rita's way and the other is the live pic of Rita's movement from the front page. So at this time, Rita's winds are pounding the heart of the rigs and platforms in the gulf. It also looks like there are strong bands pounding the LOOP and Port Fourchand. If anyone can answer this question, I'd much apreciate it, How much force can those rigs take? Right now, Rita is hitting them with 140mph winds, heavy rain, and moving slowly at about 10 miles per hour. I guess the bigger question would be, How many of those rigs can survive under those conditions?
On a side note, does anyone here use the tool, google earth? I just downloaded it yesterday and it's giving me a better look at areas that will be affected, you can zoom in to about 200ft of street level, see the streets and highways, even get info like schools,stadiums,shopping centers etc. I also noticed some refineries in detail. It's too bad they don't include any rigs out at sea.
http://hurricane.methaz.org/hurapak/AAL182005_perf.html
http://euler.atmos.colostate.edu/~vigh/guidance/atlantic/early1.png
there's so much bad shit that could come down from this if it stalls out over Beaumont or Houston, or comes back out to the gulf, reforms, and goes SW down the IC.
all possibilities exist folks...that's what the models are saying.
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As for those who refuse to leave, Gov. Kathleen Blanco advised: "Perhaps they should write their Social Security numbers on their arms with indelible ink."
Even if the market think it's not going to be as bad as it first thought, it's still going to be quite bad.
Of course the price is going to go up after saturday, but it's hard to understand why it's hasn't gone up yesterday and today.
as for NG and gas, I have no clue. should be through the roof...but I guess they're expecting demand destruction from this too...catch 22.
On a happier note, maybe Greenspan will raise short-term interest rates again next week due to fears of inflation in the post-Rita economic environment. After all, GDP may rise dramatically repairing all the damage...
the PPT was supposedly disbanded after the panic from 9/11 subsided, but there have been numerous articles lately that it never did disband, and its continued manipulation of markets is posing a whole new batch of ethics questions for wall street ---as if wall street needed any more ethics problems.
here's a quote from the canadian outfit that did the investigation: 'the U.S. government has intervened to support the stock market so many times that "what apparently started as a stopgap measure may have morphed into a serious moral hazard situation, with market manipulation an endemic feature of the U.S. stock market.'"
oh, and i almost forgot that shining example of american capitalism, enron, and its manipulation of energy markets.
i hate to be such a gloomy bastard, but i dont trust any bigtime market to be much more than a scheme to manipulate and acquire money. the american "free market" is just one more fairy tale we have to outgrow before we can tear this system down and, hopefully, install a smaller, more responsive one in its place.
Does anyone have information on who the NYMEX crude market buyers/sellers are broken out by percentages?
The experts' explanation is probably "profit taking!"
ah, but i forgot my history, didn't i? history is littered with dead empires that got so fat they couldn't help devouring themselves.
but i think about "tinker, tailor, soldier, spy" and the captured spy's rant about america, delivered before he's shipped off to russia ---something about how america would trash the world in her death throes as she attempted to salvage her empire.
the book was written in the mid-70s, i think, and i wonder how le carre could have seen it coming...
O.K., seriously, today's news is that a Category 4 hurricane is slamming straight into the heart of the Gulf of Mexico's energy region, and officials from Saudi Arabia are warning that chaos in Iraq could spread to their country.
Meanwhile your light sweet crude oil is down a bit. I'm baffled.
Well, that's no longer the case in Iraq. For the first time in history, Shi'ite Arabs are in power. This freaks out the Saudi Kingdom and hence the remarks by the foreign minister. In fact, it should have a lot more of impact on the oil market -- but there is so many political factors pulling oil prices up it's hard to keep track of them. :)
and yes, cold water is getting churned up...and dry air from land is coming in too...but now the S to NW portions are really throwing the moisture and heat at her...should be interesting.
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory?id=1152339
I guess it beats calling it a major force. That would be boring.
"more financial dodging" is more apt.
http://www.journalnet.com/articles/2005/09/23/news/local/news05.txt
The Chinese triads were responsible.
well, you really have to go back all the way to monday, when crude oil made a 1 day climb of $4.00 from $63-$67. Rita was at CAT4, and entering the GOM and heading towards Houston-Beaumont Area. So on Monday, the market has already priced in the fear of potential damage to refineries and oil rigs by Rita. For the price to move higher from here on out, Rita needs to strengthen and the fears of potential damage needs to be confirmed in reality.
Tuesday, Rita strengthens to CAT5 and crude oil and gas climb again. but still no confirmation of damage because Rita hasn't hit anything yet, i.e. it's all speculation.
Wednesday, Rita downgrades to CAT4. Crude falls. traders now assume Rita won't be as bad as the price of oil indicates. again this is all speculation which is what the NYMEX traders do. if Rita re-strengthens, Crude will climb. if Rita trajectory makes a solid left turn into Houston, Crude will climb.
Thursday, Rita wind-speeds slows down all day, turning more and more north - avoiding Houston. Crude falls $0.30. again traders think Rita will not do as much damage as previously thought. The Monetary value of what traders think Rita will do is priced in at $67.00, if Rita is less severe, the price falls.
Friday, Rita eyewall falling apart. Turning even more north, might even spare Freeport/Beaumont. Crude Plummets $2.00. Traders now officially don't think Rita will do very much damage at all.
Again, this is subject to change based on weather changes. If Rita strengthens to CAT5 over the weekend and changes course and heads for Freeport/Beaumont/Houston, on Sunday, the NYMEX will open to a buying frenzy. but all indications show otherwise, in fact a massive sell-off is expected.
Even if Rita dissolves rapidly from now on, a lot of offshore installations have surely been hurt pretty badly.
Given that, how come the price is currently in the low range of post-Katrina oil prices?
Traders don't think Rita will cause very much damage to Refineries and oil rigs given its downgraded-ness and its new north-bound trajectory. but we don't really know until monday morning after the storm passed. so as of right now, in the face of incomplete information, traders and speculators are discounting Rita altogether (this is my opinion) so oil prices have returned to low range of post-Katrina level.
perhaps way too quick of a downgrade from NHC is what they are saying...she's reforming.
Allstate at 2:47 ET was trading at $54.35, UP $2.40. Seems the smart money is saying Rita is no big deal.
Also a Strengthening hurricane as it comes ashore is much more dangerous than a static or weakening one of the same INTENSITY. The land mass will quickly kill a static or weakening storm so that the winds drop quickly as it move inland and the storm surge will be less than anticipated from wind speed. Strengthening storms carry well inland and bring greater storm surge on land.
Very bad news if rita is strengthening because the sea level will rise with it beacause of falling pressure. The pressure can be much lower than wind speed says because the storm hasn't increased to peak wind speed yet. This very high storm surge under the eye area is what does massive coastline damage, not the wind.
Still a lot of time before Rita hits land. We are not out of the woods yet.
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh/MIATCDAT3+shtml/232039.shtml
THE WEAKENING TREND APPEARS TO HAVE LEVELED OFF. IT APPEARS THAT THE EYEWALL REPLACEMENT CYCLES HAVE BEEN THE DOMINANT FACTOR...AS USUAL...IN CONTROLLING THE INTENSITY FLUCTUATIONS OF RITA. FLIGHT LEVEL WIND DATA FROM THE RECONNAISSANCE AIRCRAFT INDICATE THAT MAXIMUM WINDS ARE ABOUT 110 KNOTS. OBJECTIVE T-NUMBERS HAVE INCREASED A LITTLE SUGGESTING STRONGER WINDS
Now that the damage is done to the platforms is this a best case scenario now for on shore facilities?
http://www.thestormtrack.com/
With most households in debt already, paying double on minimum payments is unbelieveable. With money going primarily going to food, energy, and now credit cards, there won't be much left for anything else. Time to tell the kids that they won't be going to college! Come to think of it, they'll be even more layoffs, especially in the real estate and retail sectors, where most of the jobs have been coming from lately. Who's gonna buy that big screen tv when it cost too much to pay minimum on a credit card? Who can afford the rent on a newly purchased $400,000 home (that was worth only $165,000 about 18yrs ago) when you have to pay a lot for gasoline,electricity, and heating?
Buy hey, forget about everything I just said. Just tune in to mainstream financial tv on Monday and hear the administration and expert economists tell us how we are entering a golden age of prosperity as a result of the rebuilding of the areas damaged by the storms and the coming of the new democratic Iraq. Listen with wonder as to how the stock market will now rise to new heights because nothing can bring it down. Sleep easily at night knowing that the mighty Steve Forbes has said that oil prices will collapse to $35 next year and failing that, the mighty Donald Trump and his team of negotiators can talk the Saudis into bring the price down (he said so in late night tv, no kidding!). Just remember, everything is going to be alright, say that to yourself, as many times as you want while rocking back and forth in a natal position, sucking your thumb now and again, it's going to be alright.
from
http://www.marylandweather.com/news/weather/site/bal-bz.oil21sep21001557,0,5070471.story?coll=mw-hea dlines&track=rss
"THE EYEWALL REMAINS INTACT AND INTENSE... ESPECIALLY IN THE NORTHERN SEMICIRCLE... WITH A RADIUS OF MAXIMUM WINDS OF ABOUT 20 N MI... SURROUNDED BY DENSE AND WELL-DEVELOPED SPIRAL BANDING. VELOCITIES FROM THE RADARS SUGGEST THAT THE SURFACE WINDS HAVE NOT FALLEN OFF MUCH AND SUPPORT THE ADVISORY INTENSITY OF 105 KT. RITA REMAINS A FORMIDABLE MAJOR HURRICANE... AND LITTLE CHANGE IN STRENGTH IS EXPECTED DURING THE LAST FEW HOURS IT HAS OVER WATER... SO RITA IS EXPECTED TO MAKE LANDFALL AT CATEGORY THREE INTENSITY.
RITA IS APPROACHING THE COAST ALONG A SLIGHTLY WOBBLY HEADING OF 325 DEGREES AT ABOUT 10 KNOTS... JUST SLIGHTLY TO THE EAST OF THE PREVIOUS ADVISORY TRACK. ASIDE FROM THE COMMONLY OBSERVED WOBBLES... THIS MOTION SHOULD CONTINUE UNTIL LANDFALL... FOLLOWED BY A GRADUAL TURN MORE TOWARD THE NORTH-NORTHWEST AND EVENTUALLY NORTH DURING THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS... WITH A DECREASE IN FORWARD SPEED. BEYOND THEN... THERE IS NO CHANGE TO THE FORECAST OF A STALL OVER NORTHEASTERN TEXAS AND SOUTHWESTERN ARKANSAS... AS RITA
WILL LIKELY BECOME TRAPPED BETWEEN HIGH PRESSURE CELLS TO ITS EAST AND WEST. THIS SCENARIO COULD PRODUCE VERY HEAVY RAINFALL TOTALS WELL INLAND AND FOR SEVERAL DAYS AFTER LANDFALL."
930-932 mb (where Rita is now) is a cat 4. the winds are a little disorganized, but with the curvature of the shore, this will have cat 5 surge, and do cat 5 damage that way. I fear there will be devastation...and a lot of it, but because it ain't Houston, it won't get covered...
OK?
However, if you switch out the threads when people are on a roll, everything goes to shit and they tend to repeat themselves, references are lost, good comments are buried, etc.
I find generally that continuity is a good thing. I have also noticed -- this is a somewhat different problem -- that the search on the site is not good and the same things (e.g. how many oil shale discussions have I seen and participated in?) get said over and over again in different discussions in different threads.... but we can talk about that off-line...
Looks to me like Beaumont, Port Artur, and Orange TX took a direct hit. Lake Charles is only 35 mi or so to the ast and probably suffered very high winds as well.
I agree with previous posts on flooding. A stall due north of Beaumont is going to wreck havoc on Shreveport, LA as well. I have been trying to find a topo map showing elevation and water ways from Northeast TX back to the coast. I'll keep looking. Anyone have a good link they can post?
http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?z=15&n=3331474&e=428147&s=1000&size=l&datum=nad8 3&layer=DRG25
You should be able to change scale and move around. It is very flat for a long ways north of Beaumont