Rita Ashore...Amazing Destruction...Will She Stall? Will She Come Back to the Gulf?

We cover all things petroleum and peak oil here at TOD.  There are important posts below this, including an important one by HO and Stuart's post on climate change and the intensity of hurricanes...and I encourage you to read both of these very important and timely pieces...right after HO's piece below, there's the CONSTANTLY UPDATED Rita resources page, which has all sorts of new maps, weather models, and especially the KAC/UCF damage predictions that were so correct last time (so many rigs on the E side of this storm, where the wind/surge will be incredible...and the refineries with a direct hit possible on Beaumont...).  Other pieces are interspersed between all that and some very extensive petroleum/hurricane coverage, which covers about the next ten or so posts.  Enjoy.  And to all of you folks new to TOD, welcome.  Pull up a chair and get ready to learn...

Very nice graph back at calculated risk:
http://photos1.blogger.com/img/243/2888/640/comp_ivan_katrina2_sm.jpg

It shows shut-in jumping up againg because of Rita, before it had a chance of going down.

Quick note after revisiting the link to the various models of Ritas path.  http://euler.atmos.colostate.edu/~vigh/guidance/atlantic/early1.png Notice that all but a few have Rita making a loop in north Texas before heading someplace else.

Most of the models then have the remnants of Rita heading southeast, south, or southwest back past already damaged areas.  The flooding from such a track would be extremely bad.      

We need to watch the media to make sure they don't declare everything is fine as soon as Rita moves inland.  This could be a 2-4 day rain event in TX/LA after landfall.

Re: "We need to watch the media to make sure they don't declare everything is fine as soon as Rita moves inland..."

So true. Perhaps we should create a contest and award for the story headline that is most out of touch with reality. We could call it the "Pollyanna Prize" -- in contrast to the Pulitzer.
Given just how much model guidance has changed, not inconceivable that the system will actually come back to Gulf and re-form at some point. Any medium term weather-guessers with a thought?
that's a lot of what the discussion is over at easternuswx.com today.  they have NO clue.  they're talkin' curly-qs, stall-outs, all sorts of crap.
The models seems to indicate that Rita is stalling and circling around Crawford, TX -- any clue as to why?
Crawford?  May be Rita is looking for Bush!  
My general impression is that HHC has no clue either. Rita seems to be some kind of anamoly.
THE INTENSITY FORECAST IS STILL PROBLEMATIC. SINCE RITA HAS COMPLETED THE EYEWALL REPLACEMENT CYCLE AND IS OVER THE WARM EDDY OF THE LOOP CURRENT...THERE IS A CHANCE IT COULD STRENGTHEN DURING THE NEXT 12 HR..AFTER THAT...IT SHOULD MOVED NORTH OF THE EDDY... POSSIBLY START ANOTHER EYEWALL CYCLE...AND POSSIBLY EXPERIENCE INCREASING SOUTHERLY SHEAR. THE INTENSITY FORECAST THUS CALLS FOR A SLIGHT INCREASE IN STRENGTH IN 12 HR...FOLLWED BY SLIGHT WEAKENING. AN ALTERNATIVE SCENARIO IS THAT RITA DOES NOT STRENGTHEN...
I think that just about covers it.
Check the comments on thestormtrack.com, Rita seems to weaken because it's approaching land and dry air, the water is also less warm. The eye seems to be very instable.
Thanks for the link. And they've just posted a story "Water Cascades Over New Orleans Levee". (See my comment below)

"Water poured over a patched levee Friday, cascading into one of the city's lowest-lying neighborhoods and heightening fears that Hurricane Rita would re-flood this devastated city...

It's already happening!
I have a friend who works for the State of Louisiana in disaster situations - a geologist. His comment, now 12+ hours old is as follows:

(friend) called a few minutes ago; he's in a Cajun bar on Lake Charles,
near where he thinks Rita will make landfall.  He's fine, expects to
continue that way, and asked me to let you all know that.

    He said, and I quote verbatim, "This is going to be the worst one yet."
Rita's like 36 hours away, but the rain was already coming in sheets, and
near-horizontally.  He's expecting serious flooding in that area, and major
problems with the refineries and chemical plants located there.

An evacuation bus burst into flames, killing at least 20 people - NYTimes. Very sad.
According to this excellent NY Times graphic, New Orleans would receive about 3 to 5 inches of rain from this storm. That seems sufficient to break the fragile levee repairs and re-flood the city....
It's already happening.  CNN is reporting that water is washing in over the levees in the 9th ward.
Yes, the levee has been overtopped but has not broken. Now, NPR just interviewed an Army Corp of Engineers guy who says that the city can handle 6 to 8 inches of rain, which is just a bit more than the current forecast. Do we believe this?
Water is "waist deep and rising fast."  

"Our worst fears came true," a National Guard official said. "The levee will breach if we keep on the path we are on right now."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9438536/

Live Data from a buoy in the lake pontchartrain is available here (takes about 30 sec. to load). The water level is 1 feet above normal.
Hi everyone, this is my first time posting, and I have to say thanks to everyone involved in this site.  It's been a great resource, far ahead of the mainstream media.  I found the site when I was looking for info on Katrina days before she made landfall and have been glued here ever since.  
Now on to the questions, I have two windows up, one  showing the map from rigzone with the rigs in Rita's way and the other is the live pic of Rita's movement from the front page.  So at this time, Rita's winds are pounding the heart of the rigs and platforms in the gulf.  It also looks like there are strong bands pounding the LOOP and Port Fourchand.  If anyone can answer this question, I'd much apreciate it, How much force can those rigs take?  Right now, Rita is hitting them with 140mph winds, heavy rain, and moving slowly at about 10 miles per hour.  I guess the bigger question would be, How many of those rigs can survive under those conditions?

On a side note, does anyone here use the tool, google earth?  I just downloaded it yesterday and it's giving me a better look at areas that will be affected, you can zoom in to about 200ft of street level, see the streets and highways, even get info like schools,stadiums,shopping centers etc.  I also noticed some refineries in detail.  It's too bad they don't include any rigs out at sea.  

Concerning the amount of damage taken related to the wind speeds, take a look at the main rita topic on the main page, there are links to a simulation estimating these damages. Basicaly in the center path of rita, nothing survives.
Thanks Prof. and sigurd.  All I can is, wow! and not in a good way I'm afraid.
just to tell you how screwy the models are right now:

http://hurricane.methaz.org/hurapak/AAL182005_perf.html

http://euler.atmos.colostate.edu/~vigh/guidance/atlantic/early1.png

there's so much bad shit that could come down from this if it stalls out over Beaumont or Houston, or comes back out to the gulf, reforms, and goes SW down the IC.  

all possibilities exist folks...that's what the models are saying.

I added the lastest GOES images:

picture here

The governor of Louisiana has finally lost her grip -- who can blame her? From the NY Times.

As for those who refuse to leave, Gov. Kathleen Blanco advised: "Perhaps they should write their Social Security numbers on their arms with indelible ink."
Geez - and people think us Peak Oil people are gloomy.
how about some chips in their heads...yeesh.
And they wonder why people are panicking?!
please keep us posted on Refinery AND Offshore Oil Rig Damages...  i'm tired of keeping track of Rita, she just can't make up her mind it seems.
A simple question: Why is oil and gas going down?!

Even if the market think it's not going to be as bad as it first thought, it's still going to be quite bad.

Of course the price is going to go up after saturday, but it's hard to understand why it's hasn't gone up yesterday and today.

my guess: oil is going down because of the expected refinery damage, less demand...

as for NG and gas, I have no clue.  should be through the roof...but I guess they're expecting demand destruction from this too...catch 22.

Should demand destruction be much worse than with Katrina? I don't remember hearing much about it a month ago...
NYMEX declared "force mjaor" on NG futures. Not sure if or how this effects current prices. Anyone?
this means due to an "act of God", companies under contract for delievery are released from contract.  Delieveries will be missed.  In a market it is the worse situation that could happen.  
Yes, anticipated demand drops would cause the prices to fall. Hell, if a big meteorite were to hit the Earth right now, demand would drop to almost zero and oil & natural gas would be really cheap then...

On a happier note, maybe Greenspan will raise short-term interest rates again next week due to fears of inflation in the post-Rita economic environment. After all, GDP may rise dramatically repairing all the damage...
why should we expect the plunge protection team ---put together to stabilize american stock markets when they reopened after 9/11--- to be limited to stock markets?

the PPT was supposedly disbanded after the panic from 9/11 subsided, but there have been numerous articles lately that it never did disband, and its continued manipulation of markets is posing a whole new batch of ethics questions for wall street ---as if wall street needed any more ethics problems.

here's a quote from the canadian outfit that did the investigation: 'the U.S. government has intervened to support the stock market so many times that "what apparently started as a stopgap measure may have morphed into a serious moral hazard situation, with market manipulation an endemic feature of the U.S. stock market.'"

oh, and i almost forgot that shining example of american capitalism, enron, and its manipulation of energy markets.

i hate to be such a gloomy bastard, but i dont trust any bigtime market to be much more than a scheme to manipulate and acquire money. the american "free market" is just one more fairy tale we have to outgrow before we can tear this system down and, hopefully, install a smaller, more responsive one in its place.

and before anybody jumps me......   yes, dear, i know this kinda stuff has been going on since that first gang of assholes sat down under the wall on manhattan.
It was a Buttonwood tree - the wall was torn down around 100 years before
thank you
Thus also the name of the Buttonwood column in/at the Economist
Do some refiners have to buy oil on the open market?  In other words, do refiners who need to buy light sweet crude do so in the NYMEX futures market?  If so this could certainly explain crude drops since those buyers would have other things to worry about right now it would seem.

Does anyone have information on who the NYMEX crude market buyers/sellers are broken out by percentages?

Yeah, but gasoline prices also went down today -- even as reports of gas-stations running out circulated in the media.  Certainly counter-intuitive.  

The experts' explanation is probably "profit taking!"

Well of course it's profit taking. While the folks who read this blog have a long-term perspective, most professional traders do not. Folks with a short time horizon shouldn't be blamed for that; betting on daily price movements is how they make a living.
maybe it's time to figure out and implement some system that thinks more about the long term survival of the system.

ah, but i forgot my history, didn't i? history is littered with dead empires that got so fat they couldn't help devouring themselves.

You're right -- but don't look to traders to do this. It's not what they are about.
i used to think we could get back to reality without killing millions of people.

but i think about "tinker, tailor, soldier, spy" and the captured spy's rant about america, delivered before he's shipped off to russia ---something about how america would trash the world in her death throes as she attempted to salvage her empire.

the book was written in the mid-70s, i think, and i wonder how le carre could have seen it coming...

Meanwhile, if this were a "non-Hurricane" weekend, a "slow" news day, we might expect the markets to react to this little new item:
Prince Saud al-Faisal, the Saudi foreign minister, said Thursday that he had been warning the Bush administration in recent days that Iraq was hurtling toward disintegration, a development that he said could drag the region into war.

"There is no dynamic now pulling the nation together," he said in a meeting with reporters at the Saudi Embassy here. "All the dynamics are pulling the country apart." He said he was so concerned that he was carrying this message "to everyone who will listen" in the Bush administration.

Prince Saud's statements, some of the most pessimistic public comments on Iraq by a Middle Eastern leader in recent months, were in stark contrast to the generally upbeat assessments that the White House and the Pentagon have been offering.
A general war in the Middle East, well, I guess that would be sufficient to raise oil prices even if Rita has not.
Dave, wow. A general war in the Middle East. That could have an impact on oil prices, no?

O.K., seriously, today's news is that a Category 4 hurricane is slamming straight into the heart of the Gulf of Mexico's energy region, and officials from Saudi Arabia are warning that chaos in Iraq could spread to their country.

Meanwhile your light sweet crude oil is down a bit. I'm baffled.

The largest Persian Gulf oil fields all lie under Shi'ite populated areas.  That's one thing that Baathist Iraq had in common with Wahabi Saudi Arabia: they both had Shi'ite majority, living on the oil producing lands, ruled by Sunni minority.

Well, that's no longer the case in Iraq.  For the first time in history, Shi'ite Arabs are in power.  This freaks out the Saudi Kingdom and hence the remarks by the foreign minister.  In fact, it should have a lot more of impact on the oil market -- but there is so many political factors pulling oil prices up it's hard to keep track of them. :)

It's not only the oil-rich Middle East that's in danger of chaos and disintegration but also Nigeria. Here's a link to a NYT article on the unrest there where rebels have threatened to blow up the oil infrastructure if their leader (convicted of treason) isn't realeased. And then there's Venezuela, Columbia, and on and on. http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/business/AP-Nigeria-Oil.html
Rita really looks like she's falling apart...interesting.
Yeah... Where did the eye go?
This observation is reflected in the latest NHC discussion (#24). They don't know what's going on. here
There was a lot of (relatively) cool dry air entraned into the system which starved it for awhile and collapsed the eye a bit.  Notice the outer bands are now wrapped around to the northwest bring moisture back into the system.  It is still going to be a dangerous storm when it crosses the coast.
Yeah, the eye just totally collapsed. I heard the other day that when a hurricane is over a place too long, the water from the deeper parts comes to the surface and is cooler. Perhaps this hit that type of situation? I only took Meterology 101.
Can the eye come back or is it done and will Rita get more disorganized as time goes on?
it sounds about 80-20 that the eye will reform and she'll maintain or strengthen from here.  

and yes, cold water is getting churned up...and dry air from land is coming in too...but now the S to NW portions are really throwing the moisture and heat at her...should be interesting.

It already looks from the most recent update that the eye is reforming.
The eye appears to have reformed, and Rita appears to be strengthening.
New animation here.
Thanks - makes it clear
I'm learning all sorts of new fureign phrases...first posse comitatus, and now force majeure...

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory?id=1152339

I guess it beats calling it a major force.  That would be boring.

"Force Majeure literally means "greater force". These clauses excuse a party from liability if some unforseen event beyond the control of that party prevents it from performing its obligations under the contract. Typically, force majeure clauses cover natural disasters or other "Acts of God", war, or the failure of third parties--such as suppliers and subcontractors--to perform their obligations to the contracting party. It is important to remember that force majeure clauses are intended to excuse a party only if the failure to perform could not be avoided by the exercise of due care by that party."

"more financial dodging" is more apt.

it didnt mention he's a "magically replenishing abiotic oil" nut. count your blessings.
It wasn't the Yakusa.
The Chinese triads were responsible.
to answer the question why has price of gasoline and crude oil fallen in the last 2 days:

well, you really have to go back all the way to monday, when crude oil made a 1 day climb of $4.00 from $63-$67.  Rita was at CAT4, and entering the GOM and heading towards Houston-Beaumont Area.  So on Monday, the market has already priced in the fear of potential damage to refineries and oil rigs by Rita.  For the price to move higher from here on out, Rita needs to strengthen and the fears of potential damage needs to be confirmed in reality.

Tuesday, Rita strengthens to CAT5 and crude oil and gas climb again.  but still no confirmation of damage because Rita hasn't hit anything yet, i.e. it's all speculation.

Wednesday, Rita downgrades to CAT4.  Crude falls.  traders now assume Rita won't be as bad as the price of oil indicates.  again this is all speculation which is what the NYMEX traders do.  if Rita re-strengthens, Crude will climb.  if Rita trajectory makes a solid left turn into Houston, Crude will climb.

Thursday, Rita wind-speeds slows down all day, turning more and more north - avoiding Houston.  Crude falls $0.30.  again traders think Rita will not do as much damage as previously thought.  The Monetary value of what traders think Rita will do is priced in at $67.00, if Rita is less severe, the price falls.

Friday, Rita eyewall falling apart.  Turning even more north, might even spare Freeport/Beaumont.  Crude Plummets $2.00.  Traders now officially don't think Rita will do very much damage at all.

Again, this is subject to change based on weather changes.  If Rita strengthens to CAT5 over the weekend and changes course and heads for Freeport/Beaumont/Houston, on Sunday, the NYMEX will open to a buying frenzy.  but all indications show otherwise, in fact a massive sell-off is expected.

Excellent post. Thanks!
After Katrina, the oil price retracted and fluctuated in the $64-66 range. The supply situation is hardly better now, with Rita shutting in +1.3 mbpd GOM production for several days, possibly weeks or months in some cases.

Even if Rita dissolves rapidly from now on, a lot of offshore installations have surely been hurt pretty badly.

Given that, how come the price is currently in the low range of post-Katrina oil prices?

Katrina caused damage to oil rigs but also caused refinery shutdowns, this bottleneck at the refinery level has caused a temporary oil glut - in effect drives oil prices down.  couple that with the release of SPR which created an even larger oil glut, further drove oil prices down.

Traders don't think Rita will cause very much damage to Refineries and oil rigs given its downgraded-ness and its new north-bound trajectory.  but we don't really know until monday morning after the storm passed.  so as of right now, in the face of incomplete information, traders and speculators are discounting Rita altogether (this is my opinion) so oil prices have returned to low range of post-Katrina level.

Good to see that these oil traders never get jerked around by the weather.... This gives me far more confidence in the daily Nymex sweet crude price and their general wisdom than I might have been....
interesting chatter over at easternuswx.com  they're saying she's going to blow back up and might be a 4 again because of all of the strength/heat/moisture coming from the S and E...everything NE of that eyewall is going to get cat 5 surge if that becomes the case, there's nowhere else for it to go.

perhaps way too quick of a downgrade from NHC is what they are saying...she's reforming.

Yes, we can now see the eye reforming. She's one scary monster.
Bloomberg made the comment this morning
Insurers including Allstate Corp. and St. Paul Travelers Cos. cover an estimated $740 billion of property in Hurricane Rita's path, twice as much as in the three states pummeled by Katrina last month, a storm modeler said.

Allstate at 2:47 ET was trading at $54.35, UP $2.40.  Seems the smart money is saying Rita is no big deal.

It depends on the size of the damage. Insurance companies can actually come out on the plus side if they can raise rates. If I'm not mistaken, that's what happened with Hurc -Andrew.
Looks like it is headed directly for the LA / TEX border, east of previous models I had seen. Poor Louisiana.
Great graphic from the NY TIMES of the difference that the Jet Stream will make on Rita stalling out for a few days after landfall - leaving all of its water in the same place vs Katrina got whisked away by the Jet Stream.
actually, there's a good bit of speculation in the weather circles over at easternuswx.com that she'll come ashore then be put back out to sea, reform, and do it again.
That would be a massive amount of rain in one place. Plus if she puts out the sea, she could go in several different directions.
As stated a few places above Rita looks like she is getting more organized.  Often eye wall replacement cycles do this.  The new eye may develop in a quadrant different than the original track and the hurricane takes a jog in that direction.  This looks possible now.

Also a Strengthening hurricane as it comes ashore is much more dangerous than a static or weakening one of the same INTENSITY.  The land mass will quickly kill a static or weakening storm so that the winds drop quickly as it move inland and the storm surge will be less than anticipated from wind speed.  Strengthening storms carry well inland and bring greater storm surge on land.

Very bad news if rita is strengthening because the sea level will rise with it beacause of falling pressure.  The pressure can be much lower than wind speed says because the storm hasn't increased to peak wind speed yet.  This very high storm surge under the eye area is what does massive coastline damage, not the wind.

Still a lot of time before Rita hits land.  We are not out of the woods yet.

From the NHC discussion of 5pm EDT
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh/MIATCDAT3+shtml/232039.shtml

THE WEAKENING TREND APPEARS TO HAVE LEVELED OFF. IT APPEARS THAT THE EYEWALL REPLACEMENT CYCLES HAVE BEEN THE DOMINANT FACTOR...AS USUAL...IN CONTROLLING THE INTENSITY FLUCTUATIONS OF RITA. FLIGHT LEVEL WIND DATA FROM THE RECONNAISSANCE AIRCRAFT INDICATE THAT MAXIMUM WINDS ARE ABOUT 110 KNOTS. OBJECTIVE T-NUMBERS HAVE INCREASED A LITTLE SUGGESTING STRONGER WINDS

Latest images show Rita making a hard right.  Looks like it will be well east of Port arthur and Beaumont.  I am guessing the latest track from NHC at 11:00 am will show a correction to the east.  Probably going to make landfall in LA not TX.    

Now that the damage is done to the platforms is this a best case scenario now for on shore facilities?  

According to the Rigzone graphic, the further East Rita goes, the more damage to oil & gas infrastructure in the Gulf itself there will be -- though there would presumably be less damage to the Beaumont/Port Arthur refineries....
hasn't Rita already passed through most of the rigs?
Nevermind, I took a close look at the map and there are a lot of wells just off shore.  Turn to the east is not good for them.
More and more reports that New Orleans is being inundated again... maybe God doesn't like jazz and that's the reason God and me have never seen eye-to-eye...

http://www.thestormtrack.com/
On a cheerier note, (take this with a high degree of sarcasm),  we're heading into recession.  Why?
  1. The high cost of fuel and natural gas in the coming months as a result of Katrina and Rita.
  2. The rise in short term interest rates by the Federal Reserve.  You can't get easy money from a refinancing loan anymore.  
  3. The rise in the cost of food, also as a result of high energy prices.
  4. And here's the killing blow,  http://www.billingsgazette.com/index.php?id=1&display=rednews/2005/09/18/build/business/60-credi
t-card.inc  
With most households in debt already, paying double on minimum payments is unbelieveable.  With money going primarily going to food, energy, and now credit cards, there won't be much left for anything else.  Time to tell the kids that they won't be going to college!  Come to think of it, they'll be even more layoffs, especially in the real estate and retail sectors, where most of the jobs have been coming from lately.  Who's gonna buy that big screen tv when it cost too much to pay minimum on a credit card?  Who can afford the rent on a newly purchased $400,000 home (that was worth only $165,000 about 18yrs ago) when you have to pay a lot for gasoline,electricity, and heating?

Buy hey, forget about everything I just said.  Just tune in to mainstream financial tv on Monday and hear the administration and expert economists tell us how we are entering a golden age of prosperity as a result of the rebuilding of the areas damaged by the storms and the coming of the new democratic Iraq.  Listen with wonder as to how the stock market will now rise to new heights because nothing can bring it down.  Sleep easily at night knowing that the mighty Steve Forbes has said that oil prices will collapse to $35 next year and failing that, the mighty Donald Trump and his team of negotiators can talk the Saudis into bring the price down (he said so in late night tv, no kidding!).  Just remember, everything is going to be alright, say that to yourself, as many times as you want while rocking back and forth in a natal position, sucking your thumb now and again, it's going to be alright.

In Rita's crosshairs are:
* Port Arthur, a city of about 58,000 where the main industries include oil, shrimping and crawfishing; and
* Beaumont, the birthplace of the modern oil industry and a port city of about 114,000.

"That's where people are going to die," said Max Mayfield, director of the National Hurricane Center. "All these areas are just going to get absolutely clobbered by the storm surge."
Texas braces for wrath of hurricane Rita (28 minutes ago)
Latest from NHC

"THE EYEWALL REMAINS INTACT AND INTENSE... ESPECIALLY IN THE NORTHERN SEMICIRCLE... WITH A RADIUS OF MAXIMUM WINDS OF ABOUT 20 N MI... SURROUNDED BY DENSE AND WELL-DEVELOPED SPIRAL BANDING.  VELOCITIES FROM THE RADARS SUGGEST THAT THE SURFACE WINDS HAVE NOT FALLEN OFF MUCH AND SUPPORT THE ADVISORY INTENSITY OF 105 KT.  RITA REMAINS A FORMIDABLE MAJOR HURRICANE... AND LITTLE CHANGE IN STRENGTH IS EXPECTED DURING THE LAST FEW HOURS IT HAS OVER WATER... SO RITA IS EXPECTED TO MAKE LANDFALL AT CATEGORY THREE INTENSITY.

RITA IS APPROACHING THE COAST ALONG A SLIGHTLY WOBBLY HEADING OF 325 DEGREES AT ABOUT 10 KNOTS... JUST SLIGHTLY TO THE EAST OF THE PREVIOUS ADVISORY TRACK.  ASIDE FROM THE COMMONLY OBSERVED WOBBLES... THIS MOTION SHOULD CONTINUE UNTIL LANDFALL... FOLLOWED BY A GRADUAL TURN MORE TOWARD THE NORTH-NORTHWEST AND EVENTUALLY NORTH DURING THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS... WITH A DECREASE IN FORWARD SPEED.  BEYOND THEN... THERE IS NO CHANGE TO THE FORECAST OF A STALL OVER NORTHEASTERN TEXAS AND SOUTHWESTERN ARKANSAS... AS RITA
WILL LIKELY BECOME TRAPPED BETWEEN HIGH PRESSURE CELLS TO ITS EAST AND WEST.  THIS SCENARIO COULD PRODUCE VERY HEAVY RAINFALL TOTALS WELL INLAND AND FOR SEVERAL DAYS AFTER LANDFALL."

as Rita caused Refineries and Oil Platforms to shutdown, i wonder what will the weekly EIA report show this coming Wednesday.  Probably major Gasoline drawdowns and little change for Crude oil levels, may be even a slight build.
Natural gas should be even more interesting.
I think NG will be the real story in a few weeks as people start heating their homes. I've already heard big apartment buildings asking for extra fees this winter.
Well, I can tell you that here in the Rocky Mountain region that EXCEL has already announced price increases that amount to a doubling of natural gas costs to the consumer by the end of the year.... God only knows what we're going to see now going forward....
and the problem that they're talking about over at easternuswx.com is why everyone isn't respecting this storm...

930-932 mb (where Rita is now) is a cat 4.  the winds are a little disorganized, but with the curvature of the shore, this will have cat 5 surge, and do cat 5 damage that way.  I fear there will be devastation...and a lot of it, but because it ain't Houston, it won't get covered...

Maybe hurricane Ursula will get Houston in a couple of weeks...
High tide around 2:00 AM. Could be bad!!!
PG -- don't switch us out. Keep this comment thread going. We're all trying to keep focused here on what's happening and starting new threads makes us all start all over again... That's been a persistent problem here at TOD in my view ....

OK?
that was the plan for tonight...we'll keep this one going all night and live blog this little trollop...
It's the storm surge and the rainfall -- both mean flooding -- with this storm. That's Rita's unique signature, I think. Refineries may not be damaged by winds, per se, but rather by the amount of flooding they experience.... Not to mention the unknown damage out in the water to oil & gas infrastructure... or loss of life among those who could not get out of the way on land....
I was looking at a map of the waterways of East Texas. (http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/publications/pwdpubs/pwd_rp_t3200_1047/05_e_tx_angelina.phtml) Any thoughts on the consequences of residual flooding if Rita stalls over NE Texas as predicted? It looks like most of the waterways drain back to the costal areas that are going to be hardest hit by the hurricane.
and Dave, say something about that stuff.  I just assumed that over 100 comments, people were having a hard time navigating them to have conversations...
PG, the current system is nice in that new comments are noted if you refresh the page and on the comment thread itself, you can see the blue NEW tag (though you have to look for it). But basically, most new stuff appears at the bottom of the thread and that's where I always start looking.

However, if you switch out the threads when people are on a roll, everything goes to shit and they tend to repeat themselves, references are lost, good comments are buried, etc.

I find generally that continuity is a good thing. I have also noticed -- this is a somewhat different problem -- that the search on the site is not good and the same things (e.g. how many oil shale discussions have I seen and participated in?) get said over and over again in different discussions in different threads.... but we can talk about that off-line...
You can also search for [new] and you will get to the new posts
In any case, back to Rita. The infared satellite photo shows that there's hardly an eye to this storm.... and its hitting to the East toward Western Louisiana... but
RADAR IMAGERY FROM SLIDELL LOUISIANA...LAKE CHARLES LOUISIANA...AND HOUSTON TEXAS STILL DEPICT A WELL-DEFINED EYE THAT IS JUST A FEW HOURS FROM REACHING THE COASTLINE NEAR THE TEXAS/LOUISIANA BORDER. THE EYEWALL REMAINS INTACT AND INTENSE... ESPECIALLY IN THE NORTHERN SEMICIRCLE... WITH A RADIUS OF MAXIMUM WINDS OF ABOUT 20 N MI... SURROUNDED BY DENSE AND WELL-DEVELOPED SPIRAL BANDING. VELOCITIES FROM THE RADARS SUGGEST THAT THE SURFACE WINDS HAVE NOT FALLEN OFF MUCH AND SUPPORT THE ADVISORY INTENSITY OF 105 KT. RITA REMAINS A FORMIDABLE MAJOR HURRICANE... AND LITTLE CHANGE IN STRENGTH IS EXPECTED DURING THE LAST FEW HOURS IT HAS OVER WATER... SO RITA IS EXPECTED TO MAKE LANDFALL AT CATEGORY THREE INTENSITY.
Reports that storm would become more intense before landfall (wind speeds) appear to be incorrect but as far as I can see from this and other reports large rain and surge predictions from the storm seem to be on target ... which is not good.
Updated animation with the last IR image here
As of 7:00 am CDT the center was midway between Beaumont and Jasper TX.  Well inland and still a category 2 with hurricane winds out to 85 miles.  It was moving slowly.

Looks to me like Beaumont, Port Artur, and Orange TX took a direct hit.  Lake Charles is only 35 mi or so to the ast and probably suffered very high winds as well.

I agree with previous posts on flooding.  A stall due north of Beaumont is going to wreck havoc on Shreveport, LA as well.  I have been trying to find a topo map showing elevation and water ways from Northeast TX back to the coast.  I'll keep looking.  Anyone have a good link they can post?

Here a link to a topozone map centered on Beaumont.
http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?z=15&n=3331474&e=428147&s=1000&size=l&datum=nad8 3&layer=DRG25

You should be able to change scale and move around.  It is very flat for a long ways north of Beaumont

Yeah, I'm counting about 1 million barrels of refining in the direct path. Four dollar gas later this week?