Gas shortages are already happening
Posted by Yankee on August 31, 2005 - 5:40pm
- Indianapolis
- Central Florida
- Charlotte, NC ("I'm not asking anybody to panic," said Gov. Mike Easley. "If I find out we need to panic, I'll come back and tell you tomorrow.")
- Phoenix ("Circle K Stores reported outages at ten to 15-percent of its 256 service stations in Maricopa County.")
- Central Maryland ("I don't know when I'll get gas again," said one station owner in Laurel, Md.)
- Dearborn Heights, MI ("I told them, '(We're) almost out of the gas. When are you going to send it?' El Jalal said. "He told me, 'We are behind two days.")
I'll try to update this, but have you experienced a shortage in your town? (more incidents under the fold).
- East Texas (Frances Brown, Chevron cashier, said, "Monday, they had some customers come in here and actually threaten the morning cashiers, because we were out of gas and they wanted their gas. There's nothing we can do about that.") (!!)
- Wilmington, NC
- Milwaukee, WI (Robert Budzynski watched the driver ahead of him fill his tank, but when the retired sheet metal worker got to the pump and squeezed the handle, nothing came out. "I went inside and said, 'The pump isn't working' and was told it's probably out of gas. I said, 'Come on, the man in front of me just filled up and drove away,' " said Budzynski, of Milwaukee.)
- Kentucky
- Colorado Springs ("It’s really rare for us to completely run out of all three grades," she said. "I can’t remember the last time it happened.")
- Columbus, GA (no real shortages reported, but an interesting account of what happens when people fear outages or rationing)
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Some of this seems like gloating over the corpse.
My point was this: we were and are right about the inexorable unfolding of events and it is sad, but it is also sometimes very satisfying in some egotistical kind of way to be right, to say "I told you so...." That would be "gloating" as I used it. Certainly, I was not saying ianqui was doing any such thing by soliciting reports on ongoing shortages.
best,
I wonder if any of these potential candidates have private moments these days where they wonder if they want to be the steward of the economy. Unfortunately, reading through the many tea leaves of Greenspan and other Fed governors, I don't think any of them believe we can possibly be facing an energy crunch - now - next year - next decade - ever.
That's the problem - much of the financial establishment thinks about issues on a quarter by quarter basis only... not out 1, 2, 5, 10 years.
The cheapest (regular unleaded) gas I saw on the way home was $1.80, and the highest was $3.00. I did see lines and people filling not only their cars, but also spare gas cans.
I wonder if it would be worth the seventeen hour drive to get some of that?
Probably not.
We haven't seen anything below $2.00 in weeks, if not months. Cheapest regular gas in Houston is 2.40, and 3.30+ has been reported at more than one station. We fully expect prices to rise tomorrow.
Oh, there's nothing at all wrong with the Houston infrastructure, and we have more than our share of refineries nearby... :)
(I've yet to see any "out of gas" warnings or even long lines, yet)
This morning - 1.12. Not a big jump; we will not have shortages here, unless people freak out.
I recall the OPEC induced shortages in the US - watching film of the line ups; we did not experience that in Canada of course, but the entire event did also modify behaviour here.... Pinto's (to explode) and Vega's, and a lot of Datsuns and Toyotas and Mazdas were bought in the years to come.. for some time really, especially here in the west where we've always been a little more enviro conscious (and don't have the snow of the rest of Canada).
Another cycle to come.
Feeling good about the car I sold over a year ago in anticipation of this...
Assuming this was caused by area shortages, I have to wonder how the station owner (or whomever was resonsible) came up with that exact number. I mean, once you're sure you can sell at that price, why not go for an even $6?
http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix.zhtml?c=93621&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=751422&highlight =
So things in Georgia and Florida might be a little tight for a little while.
http://www.wftv.com/news/4921136/detail.html
Plenty of gloomy stories. Search Google News for "out of gas"
Your price prediction of over $4 feels about right, too. I suspect the price will only stay that high for a few weeks and then drift downward as refinery capacity starts to trickle back online.
I wonder how long it will take for auto accessory stores to start selling heavy locking gas caps, as they did during the first two oil shocks (to help deter gasoline thieves). (And yes, I'm old enough to remember both shocks, although I was only driving for the second one.)
Any bookie in the room? ;-P
"Tell that to Europeans" is the standard answer.
I haven't filled up any of my 3 cars for days and I don't intend to. I think they all have less than half a tank now.
We're trying to reduce driving as much as possible, and using the better mileage vehicles when possible. Today I needed to go to the local university library, five miles away, so I rode my bike instead of driving.
I biked past the gas station closest to my house to see how things were doing, and it was $3.04 for unleaded regular. Felt pretty good going past on the bike.
I bet it did! I got a warm feeling just reading that.
I hope lots of people will re-discover those things called "walking" and "biking"...
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No doubt most things will get fixed eventually, but it's going to be vastly slower than if only one infrastructure was down.
This is how the recovery from the 8/14/03 power failure was handled in my area; power was brought back to areas in waves progressing from the edges of the blacked-out zone towards the core.
I am also very interested to see what the depth of the coming recession will be given these prices. Believe me, that recession is coming up fast (by end October). Another prediction, I'm afraid. Time will tell.
8/29/2005: $2.999/gal (unchanged for ~2 weeks)
8/30/2005: $3.059/gal
8/31/2005: $3.129/gal
For those from Merced :) , that's +$0.13 in two days.
Cheers!
I know a couple people who carpool 130 miles a day, and the driver bought a Hyundai Sonata rather than e.g. a Prius or Jetta TDI because the lower mileage was outweighed by the cheaper purchase price. He may be regretting that decision in the months to come.
I am riding my bike tomorrow anyway.
One station went from 2.859 Wednesday morning to 3.129 Wedneday evening. Another went from 2.899 Wednesday morning to 3.259 Wednesday evening.
$4.00/gal can't be far off ...
I'm glad I bought my hybrid Prius in 2001. I get 46 MPG in L.A. traffic. My wife owns a VW bug diesel and gets about 40 mpg, and with this latest price spike, diesel is now a bit less than premium - a week or two ago,it was way more.
Despite having my kids in the car for the 30 minute wait for gas, I was calm, as was everyone else. As Halfin and others noted, this will be told as a story of refinery capacity (probably so environmental regs can be gutted). What will be interesting (from the point of view of a non-trader who tends to think aobut long term issues) will be whether or not prices return to the pre-Katrina levels, or simply trend at this new level.
is to cause buying on the European markets and is likely to drive UK
prices up to GBP1/litre that is $6.93/US Gallon
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,11069-1759269,00.html
I am looking for information on the pipeline status to the Atlanta area. Anybody have a source?
I'm not letting my tank get less than half empty anymore.
cheers,
Torion
I live in Britain, land of £0.93 a litre petrol!
Another sta in BV was also sold out today. Haven't seen any others out.
Wynnsol