Bloomberg: Goldman's Murti Says `Peak Oil' Risks Sending Prices Above $105
Posted by Prof. Goose on December 19, 2005 - 2:09pm
Dec. 19 (Bloomberg) -- Goldman Sachs Group Inc. analyst Arjun Murti, who roiled oil markets in March by saying crude may reach $105 a barrel, now says that may be conservative if the ``peak oil'' theory is right and world supplies are running out. (link)
So if oil stays at $51/barrel until 2009, does this count as a "correct" prediction?
When I saw this "UBS AG analyst James Hubbard, a former oil engineer at Schlumberger Ltd., said an inevitable decline in supply will start sooner and be worse than expected unless investment increases for many years." in the article I thought: hmmm, does that [emboldened] count as the start of phase 2 above?
We should know the probable outcome within a year - $50 oil or $stratospheric oil. Perhaps we can expect to welcome Mr Murti as a recruit to imminent peak oil in about six months or so ;)
Stocks have mostly been trading in a fairly narrow range sideways for over 2 years with only about +/- 5% movement. I think it's pretty likely that the Fed PPT has stepped in to hold a floor on stocks so when that fails there will probably be a 10% drop in fairly swift time. I expect the DJIA to drop to about 10,000 by mid March and lose another 1000 sometime late March / April. Energy, utilities and commodity related stocks still look the wisest sectors, steer well clear of retail and financials.
Some people are suggesting, even though they expect 2 or 3 further Fed rate hikes, that long term real rates (10 year+ bonds etc) may drop to about 4% (currently around 4.4%) during 2006.
Talk about delusional thinking. Norway has already peaked, and the North Sea as a whole is crashing--down 25% since its 1999 peak (at 52% of Qt)--EXACTLY as predicted by those peaky Peak Oilers using the Hubbert/Deffeyes Linearization method.
I would assume that a lot of exports from Norway (in effect, if not actually) are now going to the UK--a former exporter, and now an importer. If one looks at net imports out of the North Sea, this number has to be crashing big time.
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Talk about delusional thinking. Norway has already peaked, and the North Sea as a whole is crashing--down 25% since its 1999 peak (at 52% of Qt)--EXACTLY as predicted by those pesky Peak Oilers using the Hubbert/Deffeyes Linearization method.
I would assume that a lot of exports from Norway (in effect, if not actually) are now going to the UK--a former exporter, and now an importer. If one looks at net exports out of the North Sea, this number has to be crashing big time.
My city (Huntsville Alabama, home to Marshall Space Flight Center and To a BIG Army base just getting bigger) has all these new road expansion plans, are in fact about 40% done ( never can tell they are doing work on it over to big an area ) and still churning away, just in time for the folks to have a big old bike path with hills and dips.
I have driven about 100 miles in the last 2 months all total, down from 150 a week. Oh yeah I am un-employed, though have fallen off the roles ( Stats are such nice tweekable things ).
I have given up trying to explain to people why the market and the gas prices are so mean to them. Just read it in the Headlines!
There's still an immense gap between what even the non-formally trained people here (like me; my economics degree doesn't really count) know about peak oil and gas and what the mainstream knows. It's our responsibility to close that gap.
Since Thanksgiving it has been pretty frigid for overnites up here in the Catskills (NY) - solid stretches of single digit lows and at least a couple -10 to -15 nights.
I work outdoors and I actually thought the cold weather hit quick and hard after a first part of the autumn which was pretty mellow (temps anyways).
Yes, I can see that it will plateau for a bit longer.
Odd Roger Enoksen So, Rex, why is your own production dropping? Why would ExxonMobil be quoting the USGS?
Rex hasn't gotten around to
reading his own company
reports yet. Just like the The Oracle at Delphi!
"New evidence for the geological origins of the ancient Delphic oracle"
J.Z. de Boer, J.R. Hale, J. Chanton
Geology (2001): Vol. 29, No. 8, pp. 707-710.
Other descriptions of these hydrocarbons refer to them as "hallucinogenic." So, based on good science, we have evidence that proximity to hydrocarbons can lead to wild prophetic statements. This may explain quite a lot.
It is rare, indeed, when I receive an insight of the magnitude of what you have delivered here for all of us today, Rick. My humble thanks.